<div>In regards to the last issue "where do you stand": I want to conserve. But it costs me more to conserve than I can afford. The cheapest rain barrel I can find is $100 plus shipping, I need at least 4 of them. I don't have the money to purchase a new front load washer and would have a hard time justifying it without an old broken one. I can't afford to put in a sprinkler system (I would love to have one). Sure, I got a 3% increase in pay this year, but my groceries, gasoline, clothing, health care insurance, and basically all consumables have increased this year by more than 3%. I pay twice as much for water as my counter parts in southern Idaho. And I just found out I will have to pay out $4000 on braces for a child. What do you do? Where do you start? I have low flush toilets and a water saver shower head (you can get that shower head free from the city!). What else can I do? </div> <div><BR><!
B><I>Nils
Peterson <nils_peterson@wsu.edu></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Decker and Chasuk have opened related discussions on economic and population<BR>growth. Perhaps those are impossible to separate from the question of water,<BR>but I'd like to ask that someone else lead those discussions as new threads.<BR><BR>We have several issues hanging out:<BR>* Marginal cost of new water resources<BR>* Fiscal impact of conservation on the City & water rates (fixed & marginal<BR>costs)<BR>* Water budget, paying for new uses of water by conserving on current uses<BR>* Pressurized irrigation<BR>* East Moscow water treatment plant<BR>* And where to you stand: must conserve, painless conservation, don't<BR>conserve<BR><BR>Plus a wiki page to compile our information<BR><BR><BR>On 4/24/06 11:06 PM, "Matt Decker" <MATTD2107@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> Nils,<BR>> <BR>> I'm al!
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What would you suggest we do? Nils you said "Make changes in<BR>> current policy and procedure that aim to conserve the<BR>>> aquifer by changing personal and collective behaviors".<BR>> I would open too consideration, without the anti growth aspect of it all. If<BR>> we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our children here in<BR>> Moscow Idaho we need to figure out if A. We have a water issue. B. how to<BR>> solve is reasonably. C. do it so we can maintain who we are as Moscowanians.<BR>> <BR>> There should allways be growth. To ignore this(not saying you or others are,<BR>> just stating) will be the day this town becomes haunted by ghosts.<BR>> <BR>> matt<BR><BR>Chasuk replied:<BR>On 4/24/06, Matt Decker <MATTD2107@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> If we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our children here in<BR>> Moscow<BR><BR>I hope that this isn't a naive question. It certainly isn't meant<BR>disingen!
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But here it is: why is growth important? A town<BR>isn't a corporation, in a business sense, so we don't have<BR>shareholders to pay or a CEO. Therefore, what is the benefit of<BR>growth? For myself, Moscow is the perfect size; that's why I live<BR>here (amongst other reasons).<BR><BR>I guess I am anti-growth, if growth means increased congestion and<BR>more crime and more anonymity.<BR><BR>_____________________________________________________<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net <BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
        
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