[Vision2020] proposed ballfields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum

Sat Oct 15 14:50:11 PDT 2005

G. Crabtree wrote to Donovan:

'So what exactly are these "social skills" of which you speak?'

I think the real question is:

'So where exactly are these "social skills" of which you speak?'

Donovan has done a smashingly superb job on Vision 2020 of keeping these "social skills" he claims to have acquired deeply hidden.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; "Julie Crumley" <joodge at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed ballfields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum

> So what exactly are these " social skills " of which you speak?
> 
> g.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>; "Julie Crumley" 
> <joodge at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed ball 
> fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum
> 
> 
>> g. Crabtree,
>>
>> All work and no play makes Johnny a very boring boy.
>> Not to mention he will not develop social skills. When
>> I was 17-18 I had a full time job, went to high school
>> and was taking classes at the junior college. However,
>> I still needed a place to meet with friends and have a
>> social life. Life should be more than about work or
>> school.
>>
>> Donovan J Arnold
>>
>> --- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>>> A suggestion for those poor 16-20 year olds who find
>>> themselves with too
>>> much time on their hands might be to get a JOB. I am
>>> sure they would be
>>> amazed at how the time flew by not to mention the
>>> added benefit of not
>>> having to put the touch on daddy quite as often. Try
>>> it, after all you might
>>> as well get in the swing of now as it will be your
>>> future.
>>> seriously, g crabtree
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Donovan Arnold"
>>> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Julie Crumley" <joodge at hotmail.com>;
>>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:43 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] proposed ball
>>> fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum
>>>
>>>
>>> > Julie,
>>> >
>>> > I did not wish to give the impression that I am
>>> > opposed to athletic fields because not everybody
>>> uses
>>> > them.
>>> >
>>> > I think it is great that we provide children with
>>> > athletic fields. However, I think we place too
>>> much
>>> > emphasis on the few and ignore the many. You do
>>> not
>>> > need an expensive new playing field to enjoy
>>> sports or
>>> > even be athletic. When I was growing up, we played
>>> on
>>> > an old dusty dirt field.
>>> >
>>> > Look at Mt. View Park. When I go on my walks,
>>> rarely
>>> > is that field being utilized, most the time the
>>> > parking lot remains empty and the green fields
>>> bare
>>> > except for a family or two. Least I mention other
>>> > parks in the area that are also not fully used.
>>> >
>>> > Eggan Youth Center on the other hand, is packed
>>> all
>>> > the time, and is only fit for Junior High
>>> Students.
>>> > That state board ramp was a great idea.
>>> >
>>> > We need to update that facility, and build
>>> something
>>> > like it for the older youth, like 16 to 20 years
>>> old
>>> > that can get bored very easily being too old for
>>> the
>>> > youth center and not yet old enough for most adult
>>> > activities.
>>> >
>>> > I would get bored as a High School Student and
>>> between
>>> > the ages of 16-20 in Moscow. I could not enter the
>>> > bars and I did not play sports. Many of my peers
>>> just
>>> > partied and did drugs, or dropped out of school
>>> and
>>> > moved. More than a decade later, we have yet to
>>> > improve on the situation.
>>> >
>>> > I dislike most organized sports because
>>> competition
>>> > and the expensive equipment takes the fun out of
>>> them.
>>> > I think before we build out 226th place to play
>>> soccer
>>> > in a ten mile radius, we ought to give something
>>> to
>>> > the youth that have nothing to do before building
>>> our
>>> > 226th place to play soccer in Moscow.
>>> >
>>> > Take Care,
>>> >
>>> > Donovan J Arnold
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- Julie Crumley <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > So because everyone does not like sports, the ones
>>> > that DO are not provided for?  I, personally, do
>>> not
>>> > see why people would oppose (as principle)
>>> building
>>> > new fields for children that provide them with
>>> > something healthy, fun, and safe to do, and keeps
>>> them
>>> > out of trouble.  A kid can't vandalize or commit
>>> other
>>> > crimes after school if they have soccer practice.
>>> >
>>> > But I do agree that other options for children
>>> should
>>> > be available.  When I was in school, I was
>>> involved
>>> > with many school activites that were NOT athletic
>>> > (student council, senate, etc) and agree that more
>>> of
>>> > those things should be available.  We DO have a
>>> youth
>>> > center, perhaps putting more emphasis on it's use
>>> for
>>> > actual YOUTH might be helpful.
>>> >
>>> > JC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *****VOTE DAN CARSCALLEN FOR CITY COUNCIL*****
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > COPYRIGHT 2005 JULIE CRUMLEY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
>>> SO
>>> > THERE.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *~*The real voyage of discovery consists not in
>>> > seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.*~*
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >
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