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<DIV><FONT size=4>G. Crabtree wrote to Donovan:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>'So <FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>what</STRONG></FONT> exactly
are these "social skills" of which you speak?'<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I think the real question is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>'So <STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>where</FONT></STRONG>
exactly are these "social skills" of which you speak?'<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan has done a smashingly superb job on Vision 2020 of
keeping these "social skills" he claims to have acquired deeply
hidden.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT
size=4>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>To: "Donovan Arnold" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><FONT
size=4>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>; "Julie Crumley"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:joodge@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>joodge@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:43 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed
ballfields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=4>> So what exactly are these "
social skills " of which you speak?<BR>> <BR>> g.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Donovan
Arnold" <</FONT><A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><FONT
size=4>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>> To: "g.
crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT
size=4>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>; "Julie Crumley" <BR>>
<</FONT><A href="mailto:joodge@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>joodge@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>> Sent: Friday,
October 14, 2005 11:36 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed ball
<BR>> fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>>
g. Crabtree,<BR>>><BR>>> All work and no play makes Johnny a very
boring boy.<BR>>> Not to mention he will not develop social skills.
When<BR>>> I was 17-18 I had a full time job, went to high
school<BR>>> and was taking classes at the junior college.
However,<BR>>> I still needed a place to meet with friends and have
a<BR>>> social life. Life should be more than about work or<BR>>>
school.<BR>>><BR>>> Donovan J Arnold<BR>>><BR>>> --- "g.
crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@adelphia.net"><FONT
size=4>jampot@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> A suggestion for those poor 16-20 year olds
who find<BR>>>> themselves with too<BR>>>> much time on their
hands might be to get a JOB. I am<BR>>>> sure they would
be<BR>>>> amazed at how the time flew by not to mention
the<BR>>>> added benefit of not<BR>>>> having to put the touch
on daddy quite as often. Try<BR>>>> it, after all you
might<BR>>>> as well get in the swing of now as it will be
your<BR>>>> future.<BR>>>> seriously, g
crabtree<BR>>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>> From:
"Donovan Arnold"<BR>>>> <</FONT><A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><FONT
size=4>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>>>>
To: "Julie Crumley" <</FONT><A href="mailto:joodge@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>joodge@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>>;<BR>>>>
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
size=4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>><BR>>>> Sent:
Friday, October 14, 2005 9:43 AM<BR>>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020]
proposed ball<BR>>>>
fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
> Julie,<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > I did not wish to give the
impression that I am<BR>>>> > opposed to athletic fields because not
everybody<BR>>>> uses<BR>>>> > them.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > I think it is great that we provide children
with<BR>>>> > athletic fields. However, I think we place
too<BR>>>> much<BR>>>> > emphasis on the few and ignore the
many. You do<BR>>>> not<BR>>>> > need an expensive new
playing field to enjoy<BR>>>> sports or<BR>>>> > even be
athletic. When I was growing up, we played<BR>>>> on<BR>>>>
> an old dusty dirt field.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Look at
Mt. View Park. When I go on my walks,<BR>>>> rarely<BR>>>>
> is that field being utilized, most the time the<BR>>>> >
parking lot remains empty and the green fields<BR>>>>
bare<BR>>>> > except for a family or two. Least I mention
other<BR>>>> > parks in the area that are also not fully
used.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Eggan Youth Center on the other
hand, is packed<BR>>>> all<BR>>>> > the time, and is only
fit for Junior High<BR>>>> Students.<BR>>>> > That state
board ramp was a great idea.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > We need
to update that facility, and build<BR>>>> something<BR>>>>
> like it for the older youth, like 16 to 20 years<BR>>>>
old<BR>>>> > that can get bored very easily being too old
for<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> > youth center and not yet old enough
for most adult<BR>>>> > activities.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > I would get bored as a High School Student
and<BR>>>> between<BR>>>> > the ages of 16-20 in Moscow. I
could not enter the<BR>>>> > bars and I did not play sports. Many of
my peers<BR>>>> just<BR>>>> > partied and did drugs, or
dropped out of school<BR>>>> and<BR>>>> > moved. More than
a decade later, we have yet to<BR>>>> > improve on the
situation.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > I dislike most organized
sports because<BR>>>> competition<BR>>>> > and the
expensive equipment takes the fun out of<BR>>>> them.<BR>>>>
> I think before we build out 226th place to play<BR>>>>
soccer<BR>>>> > in a ten mile radius, we ought to give
something<BR>>>> to<BR>>>> > the youth that have nothing to
do before building<BR>>>> our<BR>>>> > 226th place to play
soccer in Moscow.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Take
Care,<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Donovan J Arnold<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > --- Julie
Crumley <</FONT><A href="mailto:joodge@hotmail.com"><FONT
size=4>joodge@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT size=4>> wrote:<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
---------------------------------<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > So
because everyone does not like sports, the ones<BR>>>> > that DO are
not provided for? I, personally, do<BR>>>> not<BR>>>>
> see why people would oppose (as principle)<BR>>>>
building<BR>>>> > new fields for children that provide them
with<BR>>>> > something healthy, fun, and safe to do, and
keeps<BR>>>> them<BR>>>> > out of trouble. A kid
can't vandalize or commit<BR>>>> other<BR>>>> > crimes
after school if they have soccer practice.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
> But I do agree that other options for children<BR>>>>
should<BR>>>> > be available. When I was in school, I
was<BR>>>> involved<BR>>>> > with many school activites
that were NOT athletic<BR>>>> > (student council, senate, etc) and
agree that more<BR>>>> of<BR>>>> > those things should be
available. We DO have a<BR>>>> youth<BR>>>> > center,
perhaps putting more emphasis on it's use<BR>>>> for<BR>>>>
> actual YOUTH might be helpful.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
JC<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
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><BR>>>> > COPYRIGHT 2005 JULIE CRUMLEY. ALL RIGHTS
RESERVED.<BR>>>> SO<BR>>>> > THERE.<BR>>>>
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but in having new eyes.*~*<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
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