[Vision2020] proposed ballfields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 15 19:51:11 PDT 2005


What can I say Wayne, Vision 2020 just brings out the
best in all of us.

-DJA

--- Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:

> G. Crabtree wrote to Donovan:
> 
> 'So what exactly are these "social skills" of which
> you speak?'
> 
> 
> I think the real question is:
> 
> 'So where exactly are these "social skills" of which
> you speak?'
> 
> 
> Donovan has done a smashingly superb job on Vision
> 2020 of keeping these "social skills" he claims to
> have acquired deeply hidden.
> 
> 
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>;
> "Julie Crumley" <joodge at hotmail.com>;
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed
> ballfields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum
> 
> 
> > So what exactly are these " social skills " of
> which you speak?
> > 
> > g.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Donovan Arnold"
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>; "Julie
> Crumley" 
> > <joodge at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] proposed ball 
> > fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum
> > 
> > 
> >> g. Crabtree,
> >>
> >> All work and no play makes Johnny a very boring
> boy.
> >> Not to mention he will not develop social skills.
> When
> >> I was 17-18 I had a full time job, went to high
> school
> >> and was taking classes at the junior college.
> However,
> >> I still needed a place to meet with friends and
> have a
> >> social life. Life should be more than about work
> or
> >> school.
> >>
> >> Donovan J Arnold
> >>
> >> --- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A suggestion for those poor 16-20 year olds who
> find
> >>> themselves with too
> >>> much time on their hands might be to get a JOB.
> I am
> >>> sure they would be
> >>> amazed at how the time flew by not to mention
> the
> >>> added benefit of not
> >>> having to put the touch on daddy quite as often.
> Try
> >>> it, after all you might
> >>> as well get in the swing of now as it will be
> your
> >>> future.
> >>> seriously, g crabtree
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Donovan Arnold"
> >>> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: "Julie Crumley" <joodge at hotmail.com>;
> >>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:43 AM
> >>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] proposed ball
> >>> fields/sports-complexacrossfromarboretum
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Julie,
> >>> >
> >>> > I did not wish to give the impression that I
> am
> >>> > opposed to athletic fields because not
> everybody
> >>> uses
> >>> > them.
> >>> >
> >>> > I think it is great that we provide children
> with
> >>> > athletic fields. However, I think we place too
> >>> much
> >>> > emphasis on the few and ignore the many. You
> do
> >>> not
> >>> > need an expensive new playing field to enjoy
> >>> sports or
> >>> > even be athletic. When I was growing up, we
> played
> >>> on
> >>> > an old dusty dirt field.
> >>> >
> >>> > Look at Mt. View Park. When I go on my walks,
> >>> rarely
> >>> > is that field being utilized, most the time
> the
> >>> > parking lot remains empty and the green fields
> >>> bare
> >>> > except for a family or two. Least I mention
> other
> >>> > parks in the area that are also not fully
> used.
> >>> >
> >>> > Eggan Youth Center on the other hand, is
> packed
> >>> all
> >>> > the time, and is only fit for Junior High
> >>> Students.
> >>> > That state board ramp was a great idea.
> >>> >
> >>> > We need to update that facility, and build
> >>> something
> >>> > like it for the older youth, like 16 to 20
> years
> >>> old
> >>> > that can get bored very easily being too old
> for
> >>> the
> >>> > youth center and not yet old enough for most
> adult
> >>> > activities.
> >>> >
> >>> > I would get bored as a High School Student and
> >>> between
> >>> > the ages of 16-20 in Moscow. I could not enter
> the
> >>> > bars and I did not play sports. Many of my
> peers
> >>> just
> >>> > partied and did drugs, or dropped out of
> school
> >>> and
> >>> > moved. More than a decade later, we have yet
> to
> >>> > improve on the situation.
> >>> >
> >>> > I dislike most organized sports because
> >>> competition
> >>> > and the expensive equipment takes the fun out
> of
> >>> them.
> >>> > I think before we build out 226th place to
> play
> >>> soccer
> >>> > in a ten mile radius, we ought to give
> something
> >>> to
> >>> > the youth that have nothing to do before
> building
> >>> our
> >>> > 226th place to play soccer in Moscow.
> >>> >
> >>> > Take Care,
> >>> >
> >>> > Donovan J Arnold
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- Julie Crumley <joodge at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ---------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > So because everyone does not like sports, the
> ones
> >>> > that DO are not provided for?  I, personally,
> do
> >>> not
> >>> > see why people would oppose (as principle)
> >>> building
> >>> > new fields for children that provide them with
> >>> > something healthy, fun, and safe to do, and
> keeps
> >>> them
> >>> > out of trouble.  A kid can't vandalize or
> commit
> 
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