[Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military Record

[Dick Schmidt]

Dan,

"And I have yet to hear a real good reason to vote for Kerry other than "He's not Bush".

I was an ABB (Anybody But Bush) party member until after the second debate between Bush and Kerry. Kerry won all three debates and made a good showing for himself, answered the questions much better than Bush, and I now have shifted my allegiance to Mr. Kerry. The thing that was very clear in the debates was that Kerry was 4 times more presidential than Bush. Bush was so bad I can't imagine him sitting around a table discussing world affairs with other world leaders representing us. He is not someone I want representing our country and he LIED big time to the American people about the reasons for going to war. 

Dick Schmidt

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Carscallen 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military Record


  Ted, et al

  so someone in political office "lied", okay.  I think the list of politicians who didn't lie is a helluva lot shorter.  Personally, finding WMD's or not, I'd bet dollars to donuts that they are there somewhere.  Plenty of places to hide stuff out there in the desert.  I'm not a "political scientist", nor do I watch every freakin' news show or check out every news website on the internet (I'll leave that to Wayne ;^) ), but I have heard rumblings of sattelite pictures where it looked like a lot of (for lack of a better term -- forgive me, I'm in a feverish fog, damn the lack of a flu shot!) "stuff" heading out the back gate just as the UN weapons inspectors were having all their papers checked out at the front gate.  Maybe it's just me, but that seems kinda suspicious.

  As far as the military record, I don't have to answer anyones questions about anything, but I could give a rip about either candidates record during that era.  I don't care how Kerry got his medals, I don't care if Bush was AWOL (which I think documents asserting that were proven false).  If nothing else, Bush's heart is in the right place -- keep America safe.

  And I have yet to hear a real good reason to vote for Kerry other than "He's not Bush".

  DC

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tbertruss at aol.com 
  To: predator75 at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:51 PM
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  DC et. al.

  Bush using his presidential authority to promote lies or falsehoods are not my only issue.  Where did you get that idea?  The same place Bush got his false notions of Iraq's nuclear weapons program which he used to scare the American people?

  Read what I wrote: 

  "Bush supporters must answer this critique of the Bush administration before any other issue is even worth moving on to: it is critical to the evaluation of the integrity of our president as he has performed his duties serving the American people."

  This means you, as a Bush supporter, unless I have this wrong, must answer this issue.

  Bush's falsehoods which he used to justify leading us to war are such a critical issue I cannot understand anyone dismissing this based on rational grounds.  You can substitute other reasons for invading Iraq all you want, as you just did, using the "we removed Saddam and are setting up a democracy" rational.  But this does not change the fact that Bush used WMDs as a prime reason to invade, based on bogus claims that were very specific, regarding yellow cake from Niger, and aluminum tubes for a nuclear centrifuge, as evidence of Iraq's nuclear weapons development.  These claims were known at the time Bush made them to be false!  They are now known with even more certainty to be total BS!

  So you appear willing to excuse our Commander in Chief using falsehoods to lead the American people to war?  This glaring example of misjudgment on Bush's part is far more important to me than his National Guard controversy.  It is in fact a horrendous example of his misjudgments in his "military" duties as Commander in Chief while president!

  Please explain how using falsehoods to lead the American people to war is evidence that Bush has good judgment and integrity?

  You obviously dodged this issue in your reply that I am answering.

  Ted Moffett 


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