[Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military Record

[Tom Hansen]

I agree, Mr. Carscallen.  Politicians have a long history of lying.

 

What we must consider is the impact of these lies.  After it was discovered
that Bill Clinton lied about having an extra-marital affair, people
continued with their daily lives, continued to go to work, enjoyed weekends
with their families, etc. etc.  Now that it has been discovered that
President Bush The Appointed lied about Iraq there are 1,085 (and climbing)
filled body bags and flag-draped coffins.  

 

He's just a politician, right?  He shouldn't be held responsible for his
lies, right?

 

The bottom line is like I had mentioned twice before, "When Bush lies,
people die."  That kinda puts a nasty tint on your rose-colored glasses,
huh?

 

As far as WMD are concerned, it is apparent that you are the sole remaining
multi-celled organism on earth that hasn't realized their non-existence.

 

And let me see if I have this straight:  You are claiming that serving in
the National Guard at home (and missing a few meetings) reflects a greater
degree of patriotism than serving in combat??????????

 

And when your children inherit a multi-trillion dollar deficit and cannot
acquire a job without moving and learning a foreign language, you will wish
that you had voted for somebody else if for no other reason than "He's not
Bush".

 

See you at the polls,

 

Tom Hansen

 

We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are
dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they all
exist very nicely in the same box. 

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Carscallen
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:15 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military
Record

 

Ted, et al

 

so someone in political office "lied", okay.  I think the list of
politicians who didn't lie is a helluva lot shorter.  Personally, finding
WMD's or not, I'd bet dollars to donuts that they are there somewhere.
Plenty of places to hide stuff out there in the desert.  I'm not a
"political scientist", nor do I watch every freakin' news show or check out
every news website on the internet (I'll leave that to Wayne ;^) ), but I
have heard rumblings of sattelite pictures where it looked like a lot of
(for lack of a better term -- forgive me, I'm in a feverish fog, damn the
lack of a flu shot!) "stuff" heading out the back gate just as the UN
weapons inspectors were having all their papers checked out at the front
gate.  Maybe it's just me, but that seems kinda suspicious.

 

As far as the military record, I don't have to answer anyones questions
about anything, but I could give a rip about either candidates record during
that era.  I don't care how Kerry got his medals, I don't care if Bush was
AWOL (which I think documents asserting that were proven false).  If nothing
else, Bush's heart is in the right place -- keep America safe.

 

And I have yet to hear a real good reason to vote for Kerry other than "He's
not Bush".

 

DC

 

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From: Tbertruss at aol.com 

To: predator75 at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:51 PM

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clearing the Air About George Bush's Military
Record

 


DC et. al.

Bush using his presidential authority to promote lies or falsehoods are not
my only issue.  Where did you get that idea?  The same place Bush got his
false notions of Iraq's nuclear weapons program which he used to scare the
American people?

Read what I wrote: 

"Bush supporters must answer this critique of the Bush administration before
any other issue is even worth moving on to: it is critical to the evaluation
of the integrity of our president as he has performed his duties serving the
American people."

This means you, as a Bush supporter, unless I have this wrong, must answer
this issue.

Bush's falsehoods which he used to justify leading us to war are such a
critical issue I cannot understand anyone dismissing this based on rational
grounds.  You can substitute other reasons for invading Iraq all you want,
as you just did, using the "we removed Saddam and are setting up a
democracy" rational.  But this does not change the fact that Bush used WMDs
as a prime reason to invade, based on bogus claims that were very specific,
regarding yellow cake from Niger, and aluminum tubes for a nuclear
centrifuge, as evidence of Iraq's nuclear weapons development.  These claims
were known at the time Bush made them to be false!  They are now known with
even more certainty to be total BS!

So you appear willing to excuse our Commander in Chief using falsehoods to
lead the American people to war?  This glaring example of misjudgment on
Bush's part is far more important to me than his National Guard controversy.
It is in fact a horrendous example of his misjudgments in his "military"
duties as Commander in Chief while president!

Please explain how using falsehoods to lead the American people to war is
evidence that Bush has good judgment and integrity?

You obviously dodged this issue in your reply that I am answering.

Ted Moffett 

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