[Vision2020] Conflict of Interest

[Art Deco aka W. Fox]

Jon quotes Tom Hudson:

"Already, in response to Jon's V2020 email on this, I'm seeing writers defend
their communication by referring to the merits of their issues."

Despite Tom Hudson's patting himself on the back -- an art he has mastered -- I
see no real difference in the tenor of any posts since Kimberling's letter of
this morning.  In fact, some are more acerb than ever.

I do see some posters using facts which they generally do.  I am afraid that Tom
is either delusional about his moral leadership or is showboating to kiss the
terminal ends of the alimentary canals of those who might be called upon to
award him another 1912 Building, city, or other contract.

Wayne

Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
deco at moscow.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon Kimberling
  To: Art Deco aka W. Fox ; Vision 2020
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Conflict of Interest


  Wayne- you provide us with an excellent example of the point Tom was trying to
make. He asked me to forward this email:

  "I would like to make an attempt to make my point more clear regarding public
  communication and sense of community.

  I welcome debate on public issues and I feel differences of opinion are
  important to test the merit of ideas.  I recognize there are a number of
  substantial problems and errant behaviors out there in our community
  adversely affecting us all.  My concern is that we should keep to the high
  ground in our debate and discussion.  Meanness, back biting, character
  assassination based on speculation, etc., are destructive and - I believe -
  unnecessary.

  Let's make our points embracing intellectual clarity, facts, and a desire
  for constructive purpose.  Already, in response to Jon's V2020 email on
  this, I'm seeing writers defend their communication by referring to the
  merits of their issues.  I'm not making a case about any particular public
  issue.  Those who feel a need to should have at it.  I am trying to make a
  case for procedure and constructive communication.  If we keep to the high
  ground, even our disagreements are likely to be constructive.

  In the public arena, those who (bless their hearts) are willing to take up
  the issues should recognize that most of their actions either contribute to
  or take away from sense of community.  Even those who don't feel much sense
  of community should be able to agree that improving it is better than
  deflating it".

  Tom Hudson

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Art Deco aka W. Fox
    To: Vision 2020
    Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:41 PM
    Subject: [Vision2020] Conflict of Interest


    Jon Kimberling wrote of Paul Kimmell getting oversight from Christ Church
Elders:

    If you substitute the word "input" for the word "oversight", I believe we
come much closer to what may have transpired.

    Hardly, Jon.

    Oversight: ... 2. Watchful care or management; supervision. (American
Heritage Dictionary)

    Original cite by Captain Kirker from the Christ Church minutes:

    "Doug Wilson reported that Paul Kimmell, in his role as County Commissioner,
is open to oversight from the elders on certain issues."

    Please don't lead us to believe that you are totally ignorant by insisting
that "input" is what is meant by the above passage from the minutes.

    However, I am delighted to hear your and Tom Hudson's fawning, almost
lusting description of Paul Kimmell.  It reminds me of a description by many
devouts of a man/wife team who mined hundreds of thousands of dollars from north
Idaho Christians by selling them worthless stock in an nonexistent Canadian gold
mine through their churches.

    The term "confidence man" or more correctly "confidence person", since women
can be just as proficient at flimflamery as men, does not contain the term
"confidence" by accident.

    Those who are able to defraud us do so in part by gaining our intense,
passionate, blind confidence.

    If old adages have probable application then the following is likely to be
more apt to the present situation:

    "Birds of a feather flock together."

    I am speaking of course of Kimmell's close association, if not infatuation
or obsession with The self-appointed Agent of God, Christ Church Cult Master
Douglas Wilson.  There is ample evidence in the record of Wilson's thievery,
gross and arrogant lying, plagiarism, disregard for human rights, obstruction of
justice, etc. to see the color of Wilson's feathers.  Now, apply the adage to
Kimmell.

    Jon, if you choose to continue to express non-flattering blindness in this
matter, please consider very seriously buying from me stock in an exceptionally
promising gold mine in the country of Bolzana.  The stock is only $10,000 per
share and is guaranteed in time to return your investment over 100,000 times.
Maybe you have a few friends that would be interested too.

    Wayne

    Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
    deco at moscow.com



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