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<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Jon quotes Tom Hudson:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref">"Already, in response to Jon's V2020 email on
this, I'm seeing writers defend their communication by referring to the merits
of their issues."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Despite Tom Hudson's patting himself on the
back -- an art he has mastered -- I see no real difference in the tenor of any
posts since Kimberling's letter of this morning. In fact, some are more
acerb than ever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I do see some posters using facts which
they generally do. I am afraid that Tom is either delusional about his
moral leadership or is showboating to kiss the terminal ends of the alimentary
canals of those who might be called upon to award him another 1912 Building,
city, or other contract.</FONT></DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jon@n-k-ins.com href="mailto:jon@n-k-ins.com">Jon Kimberling</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Conflict of
Interest</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3>Wayne- you provide us with an excellent example
of the point Tom was trying to make. He asked me to forward this
email:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3>"I would like to make an attempt to make
my point more clear regarding public<BR>communication and sense of
community.<BR><BR>I welcome debate on public issues and I feel differences of
opinion are<BR>important to test the merit of ideas. I recognize there
are a number of<BR>substantial problems and errant behaviors out there in our
community<BR>adversely affecting us all. My concern is that we should
keep to the high<BR>ground in our debate and discussion. Meanness, back
biting, character<BR>assassination based on speculation, etc., are destructive
and - I believe -<BR>unnecessary.<BR><BR>Let's make our points embracing
intellectual clarity, facts, and a desire<BR>for constructive purpose.
Already, in response to Jon's V2020 email on<BR>this, I'm seeing writers
defend their communication by referring to the<BR>merits of their
issues. I'm not making a case about any particular
public<BR>issue. Those who feel a need to should have at it. I am
trying to make a<BR>case for procedure and constructive communication.
If we keep to the high<BR>ground, even our disagreements are likely to be
constructive.<BR><BR>In the public arena, those who (bless their hearts) are
willing to take up<BR>the issues should recognize that most of their actions
either contribute to<BR>or take away from sense of community. Even those
who don't feel much sense<BR>of community should be able to agree that
improving it is better than<BR>deflating it".<BR><BR>Tom
Hudson</FONT><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W.
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Conflict of
Interest</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Jon Kimberling wrote of Paul Kimmell
getting oversight from Christ Church Elders:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref">If you substitute the word "input" for the
word "oversight", I believe we come much closer to what may have
transpired.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Hardly, Jon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4><FONT size=3>Oversight: ... 2. Watchful
care or management; supervision.</FONT> (American Heritage
Dictionary)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Original cite by Captain Kirker from
the Christ Church minutes:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Doug Wilson reported that Paul Kimmell, in his role as County
Commissioner, is open to oversight from the elders on certain issues."
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Please don't lead us to believe that
you are totally ignorant by insisting that "input" is what is meant by the
above passage from the minutes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>However, I am delighted to hear your
and Tom Hudson's fawning, almost lusting description of Paul
Kimmell. It reminds me of a description by many devouts of a man/wife
team who mined hundreds of thousands of dollars from north Idaho
Christians by selling them worthless stock in an nonexistent Canadian gold
mine through their churches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>The term "confidence man" or more
correctly "confidence person", since women can be just as proficient
at flimflamery as men, does not contain the term "confidence" by
accident.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Those who are able to defraud us do so
in part by gaining our intense, passionate,
blind confidence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>If old adages have probable application
then the following is likely to be more apt to the present
situation:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>"Birds of a feather flock
together."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>I am speaking of course of Kimmell's
close association, if not infatuation or obsession with The self-appointed
Agent of God, Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson. There is ample
evidence in the record of Wilson's thievery, gross and arrogant lying,
plagiarism, disregard for human rights, obstruction of justice, etc. to see
the color of Wilson's feathers. Now, apply the adage to
Kimmell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>Jon, if you choose to continue to
express non-flattering blindness in this matter, please consider very
seriously buying from me stock in an exceptionally promising gold
mine in the country of Bolzana. The stock is only $10,000 per share
and is guaranteed in time to return your investment over 100,000
times. Maybe you have a few friends that would be interested
too.</FONT></DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref" size=4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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