[WSBARP] QCD recording, 1 step or 2 steps?

Mark Anderson marka at mbaesq.com
Wed Jun 18 16:50:16 PDT 2025


I think you might find it difficult to avoid recording twice because of the multiple exemptions involved.

Are you looking to do this in one step simply to avoid the recording fee?  Or is there another reason?
Why do you not want to do a controlling interest excise tax return?  Just curious.

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Hi Mark and Bryce

Thanks.  We intend to avoid the "controlling interest excise tax return", so this is the reason A first gifts to trust and trust sets up the LLC.  Does this make sense?

My concern is whether A can record one: A gifts to LLC, rather than record twice.

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   1. Re: New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill 5129
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   4. Re: New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill 5129
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 19:18:23 +0000
From: Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>>
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Associations are only required if there are common elements to be maintained or any type of common expense so that if you have a plat where there are no common expenses do not need association see definition of a common interest community

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Is it the understanding among practitioners in this community that the new Senate Bill 5129 that goes into effect on July 27 will require all new common interest communities (including a 2-lot short plat for example) to have an HOA?  Currently, we typically refer to 12-lot and under communities with $300 or less in assessments to be limited in that only Sections 64.90.020, 64.90.025, and 64.90.030 apply. Now, it appears that all communities will have a long list of sections in WUCIOA that will apply no matter what the community's size.  Meaningfully, the sections 64.90.400-64.90.410 lay out HOA requirements.  Is this really the case that every subdivision of every kind no matter how small must have an HOA and comply with all the formalities attendant thereto?  I am surprised this has not been at the forefront of more discussion as the ramifications seem huge in terms of impact and workload for the legal community and developers.  Would love to hear others' perspectives.

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 19:38:28 +0000
From: John McCrady <j.mccrady at pstitle.com<mailto:j.mccrady at pstitle.com>>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill
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My understanding is that the new bill actually expands the exemption, so that the small community can be exempt if it contains 50 or fewer units (which is an increase from 12) and has an average yearly assessment of $1,000.00 or less, (which is an increase from $300.00)


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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Terrance Wilson
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Subject: [WSBARP] New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill 5129

Is it the understanding among practitioners in this community that the new Senate Bill 5129 that goes into effect on July 27 will require all new common interest communities (including a 2-lot short plat for example) to have an HOA?  Currently,
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Is it the understanding among practitioners in this community that the new Senate Bill 5129 that goes into effect on July 27 will require all new common interest communities (including a 2-lot short plat for example) to have an HOA?  Currently, we typically refer to 12-lot and under communities with $300 or less in assessments to be limited in that only Sections 64.90.020, 64.90.025, and 64.90.030 apply. Now, it appears that all communities will have a long list of sections in WUCIOA that will apply no matter what the community's size.  Meaningfully, the sections 64.90.400-64.90.410 lay out HOA requirements.  Is this really the case that every subdivision of every kind no matter how small must have an HOA and comply with all the formalities attendant thereto?  I am surprised this has not been at the forefront of more discussion as the ramifications seem huge in terms of impact and workload for the legal community and developers.  Would love to hear others' perspectives.

Best regards,

Terrance Randall Wilson, Managing Partner
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Subject: [WSBARP] Ejectment Action

Hello All: I was approached by an attorney who is serving as the special referee is a divorce/ dissolution of marriage case. The Special Referee already has findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order awarding the family house to husband,

Hello All:

I was approached by an attorney who is serving as the special referee is a divorce/ dissolution of marriage case.  The Special Referee already has findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order awarding the family house to husband, but wife will not vacate despite the language of the order and as I understand it the daily fines for continued occupancy.

The Special Referee would like to seek a writ of ejectment to remove the wife from the premises and is seeking to hire counsel to help The Special Referee obtain the writ of ejectment.

Property and parties are in King County.

If anyone wants to take on such a case, please respond to me (msafren at jennylinglaw.com<mailto:msafren at jennylinglaw.com<mailto:msafren at jennylinglaw.com%3cmailto:msafren at jennylinglaw.com>>) and I will connect you with The Special Referee.


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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 19:53:05 +0000
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] QCD recording, 1 step or 2 steps?
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When you gift the LLC interests to the trust, remember to file a controlling interest excise tax return.  Because this is a gift and no consideration passes, it should still be tax-exempt.

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] QCD recording, 1 step or 2 steps?

Why don?t you create an LLC transfer the property to LLC as a capital contribution no excise tax due and then gift the LLC interests to the trust by assignment it is  a gif and if no debt no excise tax due if questions call
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On Jun 15, 2025, at 2:08?PM, Yuping Wang <yupwang at outlook.com<mailto:yupwang at outlook.com<mailto:yupwang at outlook.com%3cmailto:yupwang at outlook.com>>> wrote:
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Listmates, thanks in advance for the help.

A intends to gift the house to an irrevocable trust, and the trust will create an LLC and transfer the house to the LLC.

A can do 2 recordings, one for gift (458-61A-201(b)(1)), and the second for mere change of form (458-61A-211(2)(d)?).

My question is, can A do one recording to gift to the LLC directly?  Any potential problems in this approach?

Thank you!

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 23:00:46 +0000
From: Virginia Antipolo-Utt <virginia at aplawfirm.com<mailto:virginia at aplawfirm.com<mailto:virginia at aplawfirm.com%3cmailto:virginia at aplawfirm.com>>>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Commercial appraiser
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Marc Therrien at the Therrien Company 425.821.2050 is great.  Marc at therrienco.com<mailto:Marc at therrienco.com>.

Virginia C. Antipolo-Utt
Antipolo & Paul Law Firm, P.S.
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Subject: [WSBARP] Commercial appraiser

Listmates,  my client is in need of a commercial appraiser for a small office building in Lynnwood.   Any suggestions?   Thanks

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 21:30:00 +0000
From: Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill
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If you read the statute fully you see that about the only major thing that exempts it from if it is 50 units or less and an average assessment is $1000 or less,  is from the requirement to give a public offering statement and it is subject to about 60 plus provisions of RCW 64.90 unless there is no common elements and no expense to pass on the lot or unit owners then it is not a common interest community as defined by the statute.

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill 5129

My understanding is that the new bill actually expands the exemption, so that the small community can be exempt if it contains 50 or fewer units (which is an increase from 12) and has an average yearly assessment of $1,000.00 or less, (which is an increase from $300.00)


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Subject: [WSBARP] New RCW 64.90 requirements under Senate Bill 5129

Is it the understanding among practitioners in this community that the new Senate Bill 5129 that goes into effect on July 27 will require all new common interest communities (including a 2-lot short plat for example) to have an HOA?  Currently,
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Is it the understanding among practitioners in this community that the new Senate Bill 5129 that goes into effect on July 27 will require all new common interest communities (including a 2-lot short plat for example) to have an HOA?  Currently, we typically refer to 12-lot and under communities with $300 or less in assessments to be limited in that only Sections 64.90.020, 64.90.025, and 64.90.030 apply. Now, it appears that all communities will have a long list of sections in WUCIOA that will apply no matter what the community's size.  Meaningfully, the sections 64.90.400-64.90.410 lay out HOA requirements.  Is this really the case that every subdivision of every kind no matter how small must have an HOA and comply with all the formalities attendant thereto?  I am surprised this has not been at the forefront of more discussion as the ramifications seem huge in terms of impact and workload for the legal community and developers.  Would love to hear others' perspectives.

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Hello All: I was approached by an attorney who is serving as the special referee is a divorce/ dissolution of marriage case. The Special Referee already has findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order awarding the family house to husband,

Hello All:

I was approached by an attorney who is serving as the special referee is a divorce/ dissolution of marriage case.  The Special Referee already has findings of fact, conclusions of law, and order awarding the family house to husband, but wife will not vacate despite the language of the order and as I understand it the daily fines for continued occupancy.

The Special Referee would like to seek a writ of ejectment to remove the wife from the premises and is seeking to hire counsel to help The Special Referee obtain the writ of ejectment.

Property and parties are in King County.

If anyone wants to take on such a case, please respond to me (msafren at jennylinglaw.com<mailto:msafren at jennylinglaw.com>) and I will connect you with The Special Referee.


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