[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 4

Stephen Whitehouse swhite8893 at aol.com
Fri Aug 4 15:44:52 PDT 2023


Mark,      The nature of the possession, i.e. either hostile or permissive, is determined at the time of entry and can only be changed by a distinct and positive act. So unilateral permission does not work mid-stream.      Suit has to be filed to stop the running of the ten years.      If the buyer is fine with it, you must exclude that from the effect of the warranty in the deed. Disclosure does not cure it. 
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim (Carmen Rowe)
  2. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1 (Carmen Rowe)
  3. Re: Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim (Mark Anderson)
  4. Re: Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate (Eric Nelsen)
  5. Re: WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1 (jgrant at accima.com)
  6. Juno Auto Response. Re:  WSBARP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 1
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  7. Homestead Property - Unrecorded Judgment
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  8. Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure - Removal of Grantor
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 12:57:32 -0700
From: Carmen Rowe <carmen at gryphonlawgroup.com>
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I somewhat skimmed the digest so I may be wrong, but not sure I saw the
following points yet in response to your question.

One, there is a simple answer to whether you can unilaterally give
permission: No.

I have somewhere caselaw/analysis on that, as we had that discussion with a
party who claimed to have "permitted" my client to have his landscaping
there via letter. The caselaw is unambiguous in this answer, unilateral
permission does not stop the clock (and if anything, simply affirms the
hostile use). I don't have access just now and won't until next week, but
if you need the authority drop me a line and I can send.

The only remedy is ejectment, you have to have taken legal action to eject
the neighbor (filed suit) to stop the clock.

I think I saw in there something in the P&SA disclosing the issue/waiving
any claim, and I think that's the right approach. But given the time
already spent, if you really want to tighten it up, I'd also make sure
there is a written disclosure/waiver noting the "time is of the essence if
you are buying thinking you'll eject the neighbor yourself" element- say,
that the time period for ripening any potential claim by neighbor resulting
from the encroachment "has either already been met or will be in the near
future, such timing up to the seller to determine in accepting the
property".


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Subject: [WSBARP] Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim

Dear Listmates:
Client owns real property adjacent to real property owned by "Neighbor."
Client and Neighbor do not get along.  Client reports that Neighbor has a
fence that has encroached on Client's property for 9 years.  Client would
like to avoid any future claim of adverse possession.  Client has agreed to
sell the property to a third party.  The third party is aware of the
encroachment and is willing to purchase the property subject to that
encroachment.
Will adverse possession be defeated if, at this point, Client grants
permission for Neighbor to use the property as it is currently used?  I am
contemplating either a recorded easement or a license for this purpose.
And would Neighbor have to somehow "accept" this permission?
Thanks in advance.
Mark B. Anderson
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 13:16:21 -0700
From: Carmen Rowe <carmen at gryphonlawgroup.com>
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I think if you look at the cases, it's still pretty clear - the question of
whether money changes hands is flat out not part of the equation. It's
whether the use is "residential" in nature. Meals and recreational
activities - if simply offering the amenities of the association - are
residential. Now, if they were operating say a tour business off the
property, that's a business. But has to be something outside how a resident
would use it. That's really the key: are the "activities" the same as
someone living there as a resident would? if so, it's "residential" for
purposes of covenants.

The really crappy thing is that it is nigh impossible for an association to
bar use of properties as short-term rentals unless the covenants already
made some reference to the time required/prohibited by leases. A look
at *Wilkenson
*alone might lead one to think that so long as the covenants discuss
"rentals" that you can amend to prohibit short-term rentals, and I've seen
attorneys advise associations as such. Unfortunately, that's fairly clearly
incorrect in my opinion. The subsequent caselaw has not panned out that
way.  Simply regulating leases does not (per cases subsequent to *Wilkenson*)
lead to allowing an association to amend to restrict shorter time-frames,
unless there is already some specific reference to time-frames in the
covenants. You very likely can't even pass regulations that substantively
impair such use.

Some dissents along the way have pointed out that this use of *Wilkenson *is
terrible, as no one could have anticipated use of residences as hotels
until the last decade or so (using the words from one such dissent), so how
could you have left the door open to regulate something you couldn't have
conceived of? you couldn't - thus tying the hands of associations under the
current criteria of the law re: amendments. There is even a majority
opinion (from the so very often literary Division III) that eloquently
bemoans the rule - but resignedly notes that the appellate courts must
adhere to the Supreme Court decisions until the law gets with modern times.

But so goes it, until someone persuades the Supreme Court that the law
needs to change in light of the modern use of such platforms.

One helpful hint is that an association can at least require that any
short-term rentals comply with the applicable WA statute (RCW 64.37) - that
at least provides some threshold requirements (insurance, etc.). Since it's
legally required by state statute, it's not a barred amendment/regulation
by the association.

The other best approach is a strict and steeply increasing fine schedule
for repeated violations of already existing covenants re: nuisance, noise,
etc. - as the problems inherent with short-term rentals almost always
involve such violations, so hit the owner's pocketbooks for whatever that
may help to deter such use, or get the owner very involved in trying to
ensure good behavior.

An interesting rabbit hole I've had a few occasions to take a deep dive
into.

Carmen Rowe



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Its not as clear where in addition to rental and use of property other
services are provided such as meals and recreational activities.

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Bryce, take a look at Wilkinson v. Chiwawa Communities Ass'n, 180 Wash. 2d
241, 327 P.3d 614 (2014).

TL:DR - Short-term rentals are a "residential" as opposed to "commercial"
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Thanks, Carmen!

Mark B. Anderson
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I somewhat skimmed the digest so I may be wrong, but not sure I saw the following points yet in response to your question.

One, there is a simple answer to whether you can unilaterally give permission: No.

I have somewhere caselaw/analysis on that, as we had that discussion with a party who claimed to have "permitted" my client to have his landscaping there via letter. The caselaw is unambiguous in this answer, unilateral permission does not stop the clock (and if anything, simply affirms the hostile use). I don't have access just now and won't until next week, but if you need the authority drop me a line and I can send.

The only remedy is ejectment, you have to have taken legal action to eject the neighbor (filed suit) to stop the clock.

I think I saw in there something in the P&SA disclosing the issue/waiving any claim, and I think that's the right approach. But given the time already spent, if you really want to tighten it up, I'd also make sure there is a written disclosure/waiver noting the "time is of the essence if you are buying thinking you'll eject the neighbor yourself" element- say, that the time period for ripening any potential claim by neighbor resulting from the encroachment "has either already been met or will be in the near future, such timing up to the seller to determine in accepting the property".


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Subject: [WSBARP] Defeating Prospective Adverse Possession Claim

Dear Listmates:
Client owns real property adjacent to real property owned by "Neighbor."  Client and Neighbor do not get along.  Client reports that Neighbor has a fence that has encroached on Client's property for 9 years.  Client would like to avoid any future claim of adverse possession.  Client has agreed to sell the property to a third party.  The third party is aware of the encroachment and is willing to purchase the property subject to that encroachment.
Will adverse possession be defeated if, at this point, Client grants permission for Neighbor to use the property as it is currently used?  I am contemplating either a recorded easement or a license for this purpose.  And would Neighbor have to somehow "accept" this permission?
Thanks in advance.
Mark B. Anderson
ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC
821 Dock St  Ste 209  PMB 4-12
Tacoma, Washington 98402
+1 253-327-1750
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:05:06 +0000
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I would argue no effect. The case law is clear that the claim process is for "general charges against the assets of the estate" and I don't think a possessory claim to specific real property can be construed to fit into that.

My other thought is the more general case law stating that the estate has no better title to property than the decedent had, and heirs inherit it with all encumbrances and defects, whatever they may be. Another line of reasoning that confirms that adverse possession isn't affected by the creditor nonclaim statute.

Sincerely,

Eric

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Eric: in your opinion, would a creditors claim notice sent to adjoining land owners have any preclusive effect for a later asserted ap claim?

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate

Your instinct is correct, the creditor claim process doesn't apply to such claims. The statutory process is only for claims for money "as a general charge against the assets of the estate," meaning a mere unsecured debt owed by the decedent. A dispute over ownership of specific property that the Estate also claims is not subject to the process. These aren't exactly on point for adverse possession, but see O'Steen v. Wineberg's Estate, 30 Wn.App. 923 (1982), Compton v. Westerman, 150 Wash. 391 (1928), Gottwig v. Blaine, 59 Wn.App. 99 (1990), Baird v. Knutzen, 49 Wn.2d 308 (1956), Foley v. Smith, 14 Wn.App. 285 (1975).

For adverse possession, I think it's logical that a creditor claim does not need to be filed. The claimant has actual possession of the claimed property, and it's really the Estate who should have to file for trespass and ejectment against the claimant. If that suit by the Estate to recover the property is barred by 10-year statute of limitations, then conversely the claimant has to be entitled to quiet title in themselves.

Let's say the claimant doesn't bother to file against the Estate. The Estate will eventually deed the property either to a buyer or to heirs. At that point the claimant can sue the current holders of the property, based on adverse possession, and again the lack of a claim against the Estate can't be a problem. Otherwise, every time a property owner died, all adverse possession claims against them would be re-set to zero, contrary to the principles of tacking of adverse possession.

Sincerely,

Eric

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Subject: [WSBARP] Prescriptive Easement Claim and Probate

Is the claimant of a prescriptive easement and/or adverse possession against a decedent's property entitled to notice to creditor and are such claims subject to claim limitation periods in probate?  In other words, is a claim for a prescriptive easement and/or adverse possession barred if the claimant fails to present the claim within the limitations period set forth in RCW 11.40 et seq.?

I am not finding any authority directly on point.  It would seem strange that claims that are considered perfected after the required period would be barred and I would not call a claimant in this scenario a "creditor," but these surely are "claims."

Sam


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I live in a HOA; the covenants were changed not allowing short term rentals.  It was approved by the % needed under the CC&R?s to amend.  I thought that once approved that would be binding on all members of the HOA, as well as grantees in the future of those members.  Yes?

 

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I think if you look at the cases, it's still pretty clear - the question of whether money changes hands is flat out not part of the equation. It's whether the use is "residential" in nature. Meals and recreational activities - if simply offering the amenities of the association - are residential. Now, if they were operating say a tour business off the property, that's a business. But has to be something outside how a resident would use it. That's really the key: are the "activities" the same as someone living there as a resident would? if so, it's "residential" for purposes of covenants. 

 

The really crappy thing is that it is nigh impossible for an association to bar use of properties as short-term rentals unless the covenants already made some reference to the time required/prohibited by leases. A look at Wilkenson alone might lead one to think that so long as the covenants discuss "rentals" that you can amend to prohibit short-term rentals, and I've seen attorneys advise associations as such. Unfortunately, that's fairly clearly incorrect in my opinion. The subsequent caselaw has not panned out that way.  Simply regulating leases does not (per cases subsequent to Wilkenson) lead to allowing an association to amend to restrict shorter time-frames, unless there is already some specific reference to time-frames in the covenants. You very likely can't even pass regulations that substantively impair such use. 

 

Some dissents along the way have pointed out that this use of Wilkenson is terrible, as no one could have anticipated use of residences as hotels until the last decade or so (using the words from one such dissent), so how could you have left the door open to regulate something you couldn't have conceived of? you couldn't - thus tying the hands of associations under the current criteria of the law re: amendments. There is even a majority opinion (from the so very often literary Division III) that eloquently bemoans the rule - but resignedly notes that the appellate courts must adhere to the Supreme Court decisions until the law gets with modern times.

 

But so goes it, until someone persuades the Supreme Court that the law needs to change in light of the modern use of such platforms. 

 

One helpful hint is that an association can at least require that any short-term rentals comply with the applicable WA statute (RCW 64.37) - that at least provides some threshold requirements (insurance, etc.). Since it's legally required by state statute, it's not a barred amendment/regulation by the association. 

 

The other best approach is a strict and steeply increasing fine schedule for repeated violations of already existing covenants re: nuisance, noise, etc. - as the problems inherent with short-term rentals almost always involve such violations, so hit the owner's pocketbooks for whatever that may help to deter such use, or get the owner very involved in trying to ensure good behavior.

 

An interesting rabbit hole I've had a few occasions to take a deep dive into.

 

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Its not as clear where in addition to rental and use of property other services are provided such as meals and recreational activities.

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Bryce, take a look at Wilkinson v. Chiwawa Communities Ass'n, 180 Wash. 2d 241, 327 P.3d 614 (2014).

TL:DR - Short-term rentals are a "residential" as opposed to "commercial" use for purposes of restrictive covenants.

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I am interested in understanding how RCW 6.13.090 works.  Homeowner files
chapter 7 and discharges  a debt from a default judgment that was never
recorded.  Debtor had a home with equity of just over the homestead amount,
but when considering cost of sale, no action by bk trustee against the home,
and the discharge entered and case closed.  Judgment  is still listed on a
pre-sale report.  RCW states in part, a judgment "shall become a lien on the
value of the homestead property in excess of the homestead exemption from
the time the judgment creditor records the judgment with the recording
officer of the county where the property is located."  Does the judgment
creditor have any "lien" against the property post-bankruptcy?

 

Jeff 
  

 

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I have done Deed in Lieu of Foreclosures for years.  I have no clue where
those are authorized.  Also, what if the Grantor, of such deed, fails to get
out.  Does the Grantee have the same rights as the purchaser at a deed of
trust foreclosure sale?  Can you agree as part of the Deed in lieu, that if
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the Grantor as a squatter, or trespasser and use a  three day notice to
vacate under 59.12?

 

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