[WSBARP] Bargain & Sale Deed - Push Back - Friday Rant

Kary Krismer Krismer at comcast.net
Fri May 4 13:42:38 PDT 2018


That didn't stop them with that (stupid unnecessary) language about 
having contractual tort liability for form 17 errors that came out after 
Alejandre v. Bull.  I'm surprised I've not heard of any agent liability 
resulting from that language.  For those of you who may have forgotten:

"y.  Disclosures in Form 17.  If Seller provides Buyer with a disclosure 
statement pursuant to RCW 64.06 (Form 17), Buyer may bring an action in 
tort to recover economic losses resulting from intentional 
misrepresentations in Form 17; and if the parties so agree in Specific 
Term No. 9, Buyer may bring an action in tort to recover economic losses 
resulting from negligent errors, inaccuracies, or omissions in Form 17.  
. . . If, in Specific Term No 9, the parties agree that Buyer will not 
have a remedy for economic loss resulting from negligent errors, 
inaccuracies, or omissions in Form 17, then Buyer assumes the risk of 
economic loss that may result for Seller's negligent misrepresentation 
in Form 17.   . ...

Even the handout that was to be given didn't help.

Kary L. Krismer
John L. Scott/KMS Renton
206 723-2148

On 5/4/2018 11:38 AM, Paul Neumiller wrote:
>
> I imagine it is easier for the brokers to /not/ have an option on the 
> NWMLS Form 21 that requires a legal opinion:
>
> Scenario:  Broker and buyer are sitting in the broker’s office and 
> they are jointly filling in the paperwork to make an offer on a house
>
> Buyer:  “OK, how do we fill in the question about using either a SWD 
> and B&S Deed?”
>
> Broker: “Oh, I’m so sorry but that’s giving legal advice and you have 
> to hire an attorney”
>
> Buyer:  “Why are advising me to use a form that requires me to hire a 
> stinking attorney?”
>
> *From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com 
> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Rob Rowley
> *Sent:* Friday, May 4, 2018 10:13 AM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* [WSBARP] Bargain & Sale Deed - Push Back - Friday Rant
>
> It always boggles my mind how much pushback you get in the residential 
> real estate industry when you represent a seller and advise them to 
> use a bargain and sale as opposed to the standard form warranty deed 
> per the MLS form.  Always insured with a standard owner’s policy.  
> Brokers with decades of experience scratch their head and say well 
> that's only something that banks can use when they do trustee deeds.  
> Even had an appraiser recently voice issues on a residential appraisal 
> claiming this somehow affected the chain of title and thus value.
>
> Is this just Spokane or is this a statewide thing?
>
> Thinking out loud (I always know the answer – ‘impossible’) on how 
> hard would it be to have the residential real estate industry change 
> the standard form to allow an election as opposed to making the 
> warranty deed the default.
>
> I got religion on the issue of limiting warranties over 20+ years ago 
> when at my old firm we ended up suing an elderly couple on an old 
> warranty deed and they end up having to go into bankruptcy.  Over the 
> decades I've had at least a handful of claims and lawsuits involving 
> warranty deeds when they could have been eliminated or substantially 
> mitigated.  Typically your garden-variety fence and shared driveway 
> disputes.
>
> My Friday ramble.
>
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