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<p>That didn't stop them with that (stupid unnecessary) language
about having contractual tort liability for form 17 errors that
came out after Alejandre v. Bull. I'm surprised I've not heard of
any agent liability resulting from that language. For those of
you who may have forgotten:</p>
<p>"y. Disclosures in Form 17. If Seller provides Buyer with a
disclosure statement pursuant to RCW 64.06 (Form 17), Buyer may
bring an action in tort to recover economic losses resulting from
intentional misrepresentations in Form 17; and if the parties so
agree in Specific Term No. 9, Buyer may bring an action in tort to
recover economic losses resulting from negligent errors,
inaccuracies, or omissions in Form 17. . . . If, in Specific Term
No 9, the parties agree that Buyer will not have a remedy for
economic loss resulting from negligent errors, inaccuracies, or
omissions in Form 17, then Buyer assumes the risk of economic loss
that may result for Seller's negligent misrepresentation in Form
17. . ...</p>
<p>Even the handout that was to be given didn't help.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kary L. Krismer
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/4/2018 11:38 AM, Paul Neumiller
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">I imagine it is easier for the brokers to
<i>not</i> have an option on the NWMLS Form 21 that requires
a legal opinion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Scenario: Broker and buyer are sitting
in the broker’s office and they are jointly filling in the
paperwork to make an offer on a house
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Buyer: “OK, how do we fill in the
question about using either a SWD and B&S Deed?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Broker: “Oh, I’m so sorry but that’s
giving legal advice and you have to hire an attorney”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Buyer: “Why are advising me to use a
form that requires me to hire a stinking attorney?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Rowley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 4, 2018 10:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Bargain & Sale Deed - Push
Back - Friday Rant<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">It always boggles my mind how much
pushback you get in the residential real estate industry
when you represent a seller and advise them to use a bargain
and sale as opposed to the standard form warranty deed per
the MLS form. Always insured with a standard owner’s
policy. Brokers with decades of experience scratch their
head and say well that's only something that banks can use
when they do trustee deeds. Even had an appraiser recently
voice issues on a residential appraisal claiming this
somehow affected the chain of title and thus value.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Is this just Spokane or is this a
statewide thing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">Thinking out loud (I always know the
answer – ‘impossible’) on how hard would it be to have the
residential real estate industry change the standard form to
allow an election as opposed to making the warranty deed the
default.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">I got religion on the issue of limiting
warranties over 20+ years ago when at my old firm we ended
up suing an elderly couple on an old warranty deed and they
end up having to go into bankruptcy. Over the decades I've
had at least a handful of claims and lawsuits involving
warranty deeds when they could have been eliminated or
substantially mitigated. Typically your garden-variety
fence and shared driveway disputes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif">My Friday ramble.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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