[WSBAPT] New death certificate law

Nicholas Pleasants nick at pleasantslaw.com
Fri Jan 8 11:14:36 PST 2021


I just tried to order death certificates online for a probate client this morning. When I selected “Legal Representative” as the basis for ordering the Long Form Certified Copy, VitalCheck/LexisNexis required me to give my full legal name and social security number. I had to pick what street I grew up on and what streets I did not live on. And then I had to upload a copy of the Court Order showing that I am the legal representative for the executor. And I am waiting to see if King County Public Health agrees that I have the right to buy the death certificate. What a pain! Now my paralegal can’t do this anymore since it needs my social security number and all of the streets I have ever lived on… Let’s see if this even works. Maybe we just have to have clients order it themselves and then give us a copy.
Best,
Nick

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From: <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Josh Grant <jgrant at accima.com>
Reply-To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Date: Monday, January 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] New death certificate law

I had about 7 billable hours involved in getting a “presumed death by drowning” death certificate from the state and the coroner.  about 4 hours and dozens of calls and emails were involved with the DOH

Joshua F. Grant
[advocates]
P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578

From: Nicholas Pleasants
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 11:21 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] New death certificate law

Thanks, Dalynne. I checked the new WAC 246-491-010<https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-491-010>, which provides (7) "Legal representative" means a licensed attorney representing either the subject of the record or qualified applicant. So it appears I can continue my standard practice of ordering copies of the death certificates if the client does not have it handy. I wonder if they will require any specific documentation that I represent the PR.
Best,
Nick
Nicholas Pleasants
Owner

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Pleasants Law Firm, P.S.
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From: <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Dalynne Singleton <dalynne at glgmail.com>
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Date: Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 10:51 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] New death certificate law

The new death certificate law went into effect Jan 1.  There is now an informational copy and then the certified copy.
In a recent probate, I received a court order to “correct” the person who reported was not a spouse although she reported on the death cert. that she was the spouse.
It was not easy and took 2 court orders and 3 tries to get it right with the WA State Dept of Health.

Thought others would like to know:

Vital Records :: Washington State Department of Health<https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords>
Who can order certificates
Important Note: Starting January 1, 2021, a new vital records law<https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapp.leg.wa.gov%2FRCW%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fcite%3D70.58A%26full%3Dtrue&data=02%7C01%7Cdpennell%40snohd.org%7Ce8c1a00a938d4b65318e08d7e6d30038%7C6bd456aabc074218897c4d0a6a503ee2%7C1%7C0%7C637231666221532424&sdata=%2F6kGSfHR0IUgum0AsI8d5mBpr0EkpRo6F1NfLhnufgA%3D&reserved=0> and rules<https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords/VitalRecordsFAQ> go into effect that changes the ordering requirements for birth and death certificates.
·         For increased security of personal information, only individuals with specific relationships to the person on the record being requested can receive a certified copy.
·         Identity and proof of relationship documentation will be required. Exact documentation is still to be determined.
·         Certificate fee will increase to $25.00 per copy.
For more information, visit the Frequently Asked Questions page<https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords/FAQ/CertificatesandInformationalCopiesFAQ>.


Dalynne Singleton
Gourley Law Group
Snohomish Escrow
The Exchange Connection
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Snohomish, WA 98291
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