[WSBAPT] New death certificate law

Fri Jan 8 11:29:00 PST 2021

Following....

Laurel Brown

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:18 AM Nicholas Pleasants <nick at pleasantslaw.com>
wrote:

> I just tried to order death certificates online for a probate client this
> morning. When I selected “Legal Representative” as the basis for ordering
> the Long Form Certified Copy, VitalCheck/LexisNexis required me to give my
> full legal name and social security number. I had to pick what street I
> grew up on and what streets I did not live on. And then I had to upload a
> copy of the Court Order showing that I am the legal representative for the
> executor. And I am waiting to see if King County Public Health agrees that
> I have the right to buy the death certificate. What a pain! Now my
> paralegal can’t do this anymore since it needs my social security number
> and all of the streets I have ever lived on… Let’s see if this even works.
> Maybe we just have to have clients order it themselves and then give us a
> copy.
>
> Best,
>
> Nick
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> *From: *<wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Josh Grant <
> jgrant at accima.com>
> *Reply-To: *WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Date: *Monday, January 4, 2021 at 3:21 PM
> *To: *WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [WSBAPT] New death certificate law
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> I had about 7 billable hours involved in getting a “presumed death by
> drowning” death certificate from the state and the coroner.  about 4 hours
> and dozens of calls and emails were involved with the DOH
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> *Joshua F. Grant*
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> Wilbur, WA 99185
> 509 647 5578
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> *From:* Nicholas Pleasants
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> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2021 11:21 AM
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> *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] New death certificate law
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> Thanks, Dalynne. I checked the new WAC 246-491-010
> <https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-491-010>, which
> provides (7) "Legal representative" means a licensed attorney representing
> either the subject of the record or qualified applicant. So it appears I
> can continue my standard practice of ordering copies of the death
> certificates if the client does not have it handy. I wonder if they will
> require any specific documentation that I represent the PR.
>
> Best,
>
> Nick
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> *Nicholas Pleasants*
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> *From: *<wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Dalynne
> Singleton <dalynne at glgmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 10:51 AM
> *To: *WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject: *[WSBAPT] New death certificate law
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> The new death certificate law went into effect Jan 1.  There is now an
> informational copy and then the certified copy.
>
> In a recent probate, I received a court order to “correct” the person who
> reported was not a spouse although she reported on the death cert. that she
> was the spouse.
>
> It was not easy and took 2 court orders and 3 tries to get it right with
> the WA State Dept of Health.
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> Thought others would like to know:
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> Vital Records :: Washington State Department of Health
> <https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords>
>
> *Who can order certificates*
>
> *Important Note: *Starting January 1, 2021, a new vital records law
> <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapp.leg.wa.gov%2FRCW%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fcite%3D70.58A%26full%3Dtrue&data=02%7C01%7Cdpennell%40snohd.org%7Ce8c1a00a938d4b65318e08d7e6d30038%7C6bd456aabc074218897c4d0a6a503ee2%7C1%7C0%7C637231666221532424&sdata=%2F6kGSfHR0IUgum0AsI8d5mBpr0EkpRo6F1NfLhnufgA%3D&reserved=0>
> and rules
> <https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords/VitalRecordsFAQ>
> go into effect that changes the ordering requirements for birth and death
> certificates.
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> ·         For increased security of personal information, only
> individuals with specific relationships to the person on the record being
> requested can receive a certified copy.
>
> ·         Identity and proof of relationship documentation will be
> required. Exact documentation is still to be determined.
>
> ·         Certificate fee will increase to $25.00 per copy.
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> For more information, visit the Frequently Asked Questions page
> <https://www.doh.wa.gov/LicensesPermitsandCertificates/VitalRecords/FAQ/CertificatesandInformationalCopiesFAQ>
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