[WSBAPT] Shutting off utilities to decedent's former residence that is occupied by non-tenant

Nicholas Pleasants nick at pleasantslaw.com
Fri Jul 24 12:53:43 PDT 2020


Wow! That is going to put a huge strain on small-time landlords.
If that is the case, then have your Summons & Complaint for Unlawful Detainer ready to go and serve them on the 61st day. And move for default as soon as you can. Then get your Writ of Restitution and get the Sheriff to put them out. Whole process will take about 90 days, but I don’t see a faster alternative.
Best of Luck!
Nick
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Have a client who recently purchased a property in Snohomish County and there was a large outstanding water bill as the water district refused to shut off water during Covid even though the water district knew the water pipe was leaking under the easement road.



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Don't pay the bill and they will shut them off without you asking.
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My understanding is that utilities will expressly and emphatically deny any request to shut off utilities for squatters.  So these proposals are usually dead on arrival from a mere practical point.



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Hi Nick,

We have already made an offer of “Cash for Keys” to the girlfriend but she has not taken us up on it thus far.



I agree that shutting off the utilities is a bad strategy but my client nonetheless wanted to know if he could do it as a last resort.  I will advise him against it.



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Hi Jon,

We had an e-mail thread about this on July 1. I advised you in that e-mail thread that the holdover girlfriend is considered a “tenant at will” or “tenant at sufferance” entitled to protections of Chs. 59.12 and 59.18, RCW.

I suppose your question now is whether she has protections under Ch. 59.20 RCW. I would argue yes, under the same legal principles.

Shutting off utilities to any building that is occupied, whether by “squatters” or otherwise, is inhumane, and terribly disfavored under Title 59. That is a bad strategy.

Maybe this is a situation where a “Cash for Keys” strategy is appropriate. The PR can consider paying the girlfriend a reasonable sum as a relocation incentive to get her to vacate. That would be my recommendation.

Best,

Nick

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Decedent’s mobile home continues to be occupied by his girlfriend, who was not a tenant as she was not paying rent and who has no claim to the property as an heir or beneficiary. I represent the Personal Representative who intends to sell the mobile home. We gave a 60-day notice to terminate occupancy pursuant to Proclamation 20-19.2.  Can the PR shut off the water and electricity to the mobile home in the meantime?  If not, how about at the expiration of the 60-day notice if the girlfriend has not vacated?



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