[WSBAPT] Antique/Collectible Guns

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 13 14:09:11 PDT 2018


Jim, depending on what you are looking for, I had an estate where the deceased left about a dozen cheap guns and rifles laying around the house.  The personal representative called Cabela's at the Tulalip store.  We met with Dan Tolleson, Gun Library Manager.  He came out to the house and took possession of the guns.  Cabela's then paid money for the guns to the estate.  While  that probably wasn't the highest price for the firearms, it did legally get rid of them.


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Subject: [WSBAPT] Antique/Collectible Guns

Decedent had a handful of fairly interesting, very old firearms.  Looking for someone to appraise and sell them for estate, preferably someone north of Everett.

Thanks in advance,

Jim Dolan

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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Title issue

Unless there is a defect in the deed, deceased brothers heirs have no interest in the property. I would speak another title company/underwriter in spite of their claim that "everyone does this".

Even if they are concerned about a claim,  the brother has been dead over 20 years. If his heirs had an issue with title in the name of sister they would have objected years ago.

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Subject: [WSBARP] Title issue

Colleagues and particularly those of you so skilled with title issues: I have encountered a problem that I have never encountered before.

Title company is refusing to clear title for title insurance purposes on property that was held as JTWROS. They are demanding that probate on 1st deceased either be reopened or that all intestate heirs sign off on a veritable lack of probate affidavit style series of documents that they want.

Basic facts:

Mom died years ago. Deed from mom's PR to brother and sister as JTWROS was recorded.  Brother died in 1995. Death certificate available.

Probate opened, but of course this property did not go through probate.

Good law firm so I assume that brother's death certificate was recorded or provided, but of course, that is not available on-line.

Sister died in 2017. Sister's estate is selling the property. Preliminary commitment says that property is vested in the heirs & devisees of both (deceased) sister and brother.

Title company says it's a "matter of policy" that any loose (my word) potential heirs of brother sign off for them to issue title insurance. They won't recognize the JTWROS status - which is clearly set forth on the deed.

Title company tells me that every title company does this...

Your thoughts?

Best, Claudia






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