[Vision2020] Hobby Lobby co-pay free birth control options

[Scott Dredge]

<And,
 Scott, you think there will “eventually” be some solution, but what 
about the basic health care needs of women in the meantime?  It’s just 
so unimportant that it’s OK for us to hope and pray that – eventually – 
you’ll be right?  Would your attitude be so caviler if it were your
 gender-based basic health care needs?  I guess we just tell rape 
victims desperate to prevent pregnancy who need EC to just wait . . . 
it’s all get sorted out in the wash.>

How much more time should be spent on venting about the Hobby Lobby decision before taking action to remedy the situation?  The Supreme Court is the highest court in the land and they've made their narrow ruling on the Hobby Lobby case.  Alito and Kennedy already wrote in the majority opinion that the option for the government coverage of BC for non-profit organizationss could be expanded to cover closely held for-profit orgs (just before they issues the Wheaton injunction).

From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:17:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hobby Lobby co-pay free birth control options

As much as you try to ignore the matter, it isn’t just about affordable birth control; it’s about allowing employers to dictate what appropriate mainstream medical care employees spend their compensation on. The fact of the matter is that IUDs have appropriate accepted medical uses besides contraceptive use – something like 8-15% of women who have IUDs have them for medical reasons other than contraception.  I know that’s an inconvenient fact for you, but it is nonetheless a fact, and a fact that was completely ignored by SCOTUS, by Gary, by Scott, and by Paul. Allowing employers to “opt out” of covering the most appropriate mainstream legal treatment decided by a woman and her doctor is discrimination on the basis of gender, plain and simple, not to mention wholly inappropriate. And, when your employer “opts out” of covering, for instance, triple-bypasses for men over 50 because it’s thwarting God’s will or for any other silly “religious” reason, I’ll be just as outraged.  I’ll think it just as wrong for men to have to purchase private “heart disease” coverage “just in case” or schlepp around looking for cheaper care when your employer puts itself in your doctor’s office. It’s really too bad you have such a low opinion of the health care needs for women. And, Scott, you think there will “eventually” be some solution, but what about the basic health care needs of women in the meantime?  It’s just so unimportant that it’s OK for us to hope and pray that – eventually – you’ll be right?  Would your attitude be so caviler if it were your gender-based basic health care needs?  I guess we just tell rape victims desperate to prevent pregnancy who need EC to just wait . . . it’s all get sorted out in the wash.   SaundraMoscow, ID Well-behaved women seldom make history.~ Laurel Thatcher Ulrich   From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:41 PM
To: Scott Dredge
Cc: viz
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hobby Lobby co-pay free birth control options I'm dreadfully sorry Mr. Dredge, avoiding Gary's comments is not one of the available options. When the discussion devolves to the silly assertion that because of the courts decision women won't be able to afford birth control, you will hear similar comments again and again and again. g On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:The comments about Hobby Lobby are yet again all over the map.   Getting back to basics to hopefully avoid comments like Gary's '42 condoms at Walmart cost about $18', here is the list of 16 of 20 FDA approved birth control options that are available c0-pay free to Hobby Lobby employees:Male condomsFemale condomsDiaphragms with spermicideSponges with spermicideCervical caps with spermicideSpermicide aloneBirth-control pills with estrogen and progestin (“Combined Pill)Birth-control pills with progestin alone (“The Mini Pill)Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)Contraceptive patchesContraceptive ringsProgestin injectionsImplantable rodsVasectomiesFemale sterilization surgeriesFemale sterilization implants

The 4 remaining FDA approved options of which Hobby Lobby objected are:Plan B emergency contraceptionElla  emergency contraceptionCopper IUDIUD with progestin

While I don't agree with SCOTUS decision, I can certainly see both sides to this case and ultimately I'm convinced that coverage for FDA approved birth control will be provided through some other means that will absolve (according to SCOTUS) objecting employers.
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