[Vision2020] Barricades and apologies

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 30 23:20:01 PDT 2013 

Yes, there is a problem. It makes the author sound ignorant and lazy in their writings. There isn't anything illegal with running your fingernails on a chalkboard, or chewing tin foil. However, you will turn the reader and the public off from your suggestions and ideas. 
 
Donovan J. Arnold
 

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 From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
Cc: Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies
  


There isn't anything wrong with ending a sentence with a prepostion. This is a fallacy (apparently) promulgated by Alexander Pope. 
On Oct 1, 2013 1:33 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

It was once deemed a sin black as soot
>To place at a sentence's foot
>A mere preposition.
>"Absurd superstition,
>Up with which," Churchill roared, "I'll not put."
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>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>http://www.moscowcares.com/ 
>  
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
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>"There's room at the top they are telling you still  But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
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>- John Lennon
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>On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
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>It is. 
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>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>It is what it is.  Correct?
>>>
>>>-Scott
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>>>On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>Not I, Donovan.  Ending a sentence with a preposition is a hanging 
offense unless I do it, but this, well what is, is...... 
>>>>
>>>>Sue h 
>>>>
>>>>From: Donovan Arnold  
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:06 AM 
>>>>To: Sunil Ramalingam  
>>>>Cc: vision 2020  
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies 
>>>>  
>>>>" I'd say that whoever the mayor is."--Sunil Ramalingam 
>>>>
>>>>I wholeheartedly disagree. It is improper to use the word "is" at the end 
of sentence. This forum has really degenerated. Next thing you know, people will 
be ending sentences with a preposition, and some disgruntled laid off Idaho English teacher is 
going to go on a rampage breaking people's fingers.   
>>>>
>>>>Donovan J. Arnold 
>>>>From: Sunil Ramalingam 
<sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: 
>>>>Cc: vision 2020 
<vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:10 
PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
Barricades and apologies
>>>> 
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>>>>Scott,
>>>>
>>>>I'll speak only for myself. If Wayne first contacted 
the street/road department, or whichever department is directly responsible, and 
they failed to respond or act, and he then emailed Nancy, then I sympathize with 
him. Based on his email, I don't think he contacted the correct department, but 
instead contacted Nancy instead. If that is correct, then I don't sympathize 
with him. I think you should first take action that is most likely to lead to 
the result you are seeking.
>>>>
>>>>That's the only thing influencing my views, 
not the exaggerated heap of stuff below.
>>>>
>>>>I do think it's ludicrous to 
blame the mayor for this if you've failed to contact the correct department, as 
you and Wayne did. I'd say that whoever the mayor is. 
>>>>
>>>>Sunil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
>>>>To: janesta at gmail.com; idahovandal1 at live.com
>>>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:55:15 -0600
>>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
Barricades and apologies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street 
barricades?>
>>>>
>>>>Well of course very few on the viz would have any 
sympathy for street barricades being dumped / stored on Wayne's private 
property.  After all, he's a hated white over privileged semi-conservative 
male and thus not part of the viz borg group think majority.  Now had he been an American Indian complaining about 
this, most on the viz would have expressed blowharded outrage similar to how they express outrage to the 
temporary use of transporting Megaloads over Highway 12 running through tribal land.
>>>>
>>>><Someone has WAY too much 
time of their hands>
>>>>
>>>>Why so?  Do you think it took Wayne an 
overly large amount of time to lodge a complaint and post an email to the 
viz?  If so, I think you'd might also agree that someone else who posts 
magnitudes more CRAP to the viz has WAY WAY WAY too much time on their 
hands.  :)
>>>>
>>>>-Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:33:35 -0700
>>>>From: janesta at gmail.com
>>>>To: idahovandal1 at live.com
>>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
Barricades and apologies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Once Upon A Time... 
>>>>
>>>>During the Great Land Rush of the late 60's 
& 70's  Moscow was known throughout the Pacific Northwest, as "The City 
With A Smile"
>>>> 
>>>>What happened?
>>>>
>>>>Street barricades? Someone is 
pissed off about street barricades? Someone has WAY too much time of their 
hands.. I hear volunteers are needed at the food bank..
>>>>
>>>>Happy Fall 
and Love to All,
>>>>Janesta
>>>> 
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>>>>On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Scott's earlier post below.  Scott, I think you have, by  issuing an an apology for something you did not do, you  have thereby  earned a complaint or insult credit.  A pre-apology as it were.  If someone has the audacity  (as has been the case for years preceding the Homecoming parade) to  temporarily place street barricades on your lawn readying for the once a year  event, you have an unused credit available to fire away at any and all city  officials.  I, myself, have found barricades on or near my lawn while  preparations are made to block my street during the once a year Ice Cream  Social at the 1912 Center, and I've decided to be mad as hell and not take it  anymore.  Well, unless I decide it's perfectly alright.  Which will  probably be the case.
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>>>>><I just finished talking with a rep of the Streets Department.  They 
responded to Mr. Dredge's complaint and corrected the situation within 
an hour of its filing.> Ummm...I didn't have complaint.  Do you mean Wayne's complaint? <I think Mr. Dredge owes Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department an apology.> OK - well since you're since you're convinced in your own mind that your opinion is always the correct even when you're unable to justify it based on either fact or logic, I guess you've painted me into a corner once again.  It's getting damn frustrating that you continue playing me like an air guitar and IMO you ought to be flagged for a foul on the viz for 'excessive celebration'. I'll do what Tom never does.  Here it goes without further ado: My apologies to Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department. Sincerely, --Scott Dredge 
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