<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Yes, there is a problem. It makes the author sound ignorant and lazy in their writings. There isn't anything illegal with running your fingernails on a chalkboard, or chewing tin foil. However, you will turn the reader and the public off from your suggestions and ideas. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan J. Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Chasuk
<chasuk@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 30, 2013 11:13 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2968378052"><div><div>There isn't anything wrong with ending a sentence with a prepostion. This is a fallacy (apparently) promulgated by Alexander Pope.</div>
<div class="yiv2968378052gmail_quote">On Oct 1, 2013 1:33 PM, "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2968378052gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">
<div class="yiv2968378052yqt0460813127" id="yiv2968378052yqt60344"><div><div><span>It was once deemed a sin black as soot<br clear="none">To place at a sentence's foot<br clear="none">A mere preposition.<br clear="none">"Absurd superstition,<br clear="none">Up with which," Churchill roared, "I'll not put."</span><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a></div>
<div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size: medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br clear="none" style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br clear="none">
</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br clear="none"></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>It is. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>It is what it is. Correct?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-Scott</div><div><br clear="none">On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Sue Hovey" <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>Not I, Donovan. Ending a sentence with a preposition is a hanging
offense unless I do it, but this, well what is, is......</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2013 6:06 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Barricades and apologies</div></div></div>
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<div>" I'd say that whoever the mayor is."--Sunil Ramalingam</div>
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<div>I wholeheartedly disagree. It is improper to use the word "is" at the end
of sentence. This forum has really degenerated. Next thing you know, people will
be ending sentences with a preposition, and some <span><span>disgruntled</span></span> laid off Idaho English teacher is
going to go on a rampage breaking people's fingers. </div>
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<div>Donovan J. Arnold</div>
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</div><font face="Arial"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Sunil Ramalingam
<<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> vision 2020
<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:10
PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020]
Barricades and apologies<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Scott,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I'll speak only for myself. If Wayne first contacted
the street/road department, or whichever department is directly responsible, and
they failed to respond or act, and he then emailed Nancy, then I sympathize with
him. Based on his email, I don't think he contacted the correct department, but
instead contacted Nancy instead. If that is correct, then I don't sympathize
with him. I think you should first take action that is most likely to lead to
the result you are seeking.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">That's the only thing influencing my views,
not the exaggerated heap of stuff below.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I do think it's ludicrous to
blame the mayor for this if you've failed to contact the correct department, as
you and Wayne did. I'd say that whoever the mayor is. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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</div>From: <a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com">janesta@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Sat, 28 <span>Sep</span>
2013 12:55:15 -0600<br clear="none">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Barricades and apologies<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div dir="ltr"><Street barricades? Someone is pissed off about street
barricades?><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Well of course very few on the viz would have any
sympathy for street barricades being dumped / stored on Wayne's private
property. After all, he's a hated white over privileged semi-conservative
male and thus not part of the viz <span>borg</span>
group think majority. Now had he been an American Indian complaining about
this, most on the viz would have expressed <span>blowharded</span> outrage similar to how they express outrage to the
temporary use of transporting <span>Megaloads</span>
over Highway 12 running through tribal land.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><Someone has WAY too much
time of their hands><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Why so? Do you think it took Wayne an
overly large amount of time to lodge a complaint and post an email to the
viz? If so, I think you'd might also agree that someone else who posts
magnitudes more CRAP to the viz has WAY WAY WAY too much time on their
hands. :)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-Scott<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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</div>Date: Sat, 28 <span>Sep</span>
2013 11:33:35 -0700<br clear="none">From: <a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janesta@gmail.com">janesta@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">To:
<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</a><br clear="none">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
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<div>Once Upon A Time... <br clear="none"><br clear="none">During the Great Land Rush of the late 60's
& 70's Moscow was known throughout the Pacific Northwest, as "The City
With A Smile"<br clear="none"></div>
<div> </div></div>What happened?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Street barricades? Someone is
pissed off about street barricades? Someone has WAY too much time of their
hands.. I hear volunteers are needed at the food bank..<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Happy Fall
and Love to All,<br clear="none"></div><span>Janesta</span><br clear="none"></div>
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<div>On Sat, <span>Sep</span> 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Carl <span>Westberg</span> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Scott's earlier post below. Scott, I think you have, by
issuing an an apology for something you did not do, you have thereby
earned a complaint or insult credit. A <span>pre</span>-apology as it were. If someone has the audacity
(as has been the case for years preceding the Homecoming parade) to
temporarily place street barricades on your lawn readying for the once a year
event, you have an unused credit available to fire away at any and all city
officials. I, myself, have found barricades on or near my lawn while
preparations are made to block my street during the once a year Ice Cream
Social at the 1912 Center, and I've decided to be mad as hell and not take it
anymore. Well, unless I decide it's perfectly alright. Which will
probably be the case.<br clear="none"><pre><I just finished talking with a rep of the Streets Department. They
responded to Mr. Dredge's complaint and corrected the situation within
an hour of its filing.>
<span>Ummm</span>...I didn't have complaint. Do you mean Wayne's complaint?
<I think Mr. Dredge owes Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department an apology.>
OK - well since you're since you're convinced in your own mind that your opinion is always the correct even when you're unable to justify it based on either fact or logic, I guess you've painted me into a corner once again. It's getting damn frustrating that you continue playing me like an air guitar and IMO you ought to be flagged for a foul on the viz for 'excessive celebration'.
I'll do what Tom never does. Here it goes without further ado:
My apologies to Mayor Chaney and the Streets Department.
Sincerely,
--Scott Dredge
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