[Vision2020] Where were you . . .

Mon Nov 18 14:28:29 PST 2013

Darn....this had its beginnings as an interesting bit of “Where were you when”  and degenerated into this.  (Not just Scott’s post)  I remember where I was very clearly, but then I’m a lot older than any of you.

Sue H

From: Scott Dredge 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:54 AM
To: Tom Hansen ; Donovan Arnold 
Cc: viz 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Where were you . . .

Tom writes:
<I realize now thT I was expecting too much from this listserve.>

Yeah - I think a lot of us expect much more from the viz, but there are too few who regularly post so we're left with a lot of regurgitated material.

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From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:56:03 -0800
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Where were you . . .

I have absolutely no problem remembering when and where I was at the time of important events.

September 11, 2001 - I was installing mofifications on a utilities-tracking database at UI Facilities (Office of Utilities and Engineering).  I had just stepped outside for a smoking break, joking around with Mike Holthaus (the Facilities water utilities guru), when a news-flash was broadcast from a radio in the HVAC shop (they always had a local radio station on their shop radio) announcing that a commercial jet had crashed into the World Trade Center in New York.

The primary purpose for my starting this thread was to develop a topic that (hopefully) might serve to unite us V-Peeps in discussion, and possibly share some experiences, NOT to provide a platform to question peoples' memories.

I was hoping that the Viz might be open to discussing John F. Kennedy, the impact of his presidency, and the loss (still felt by the USA) resulting from his death . . . realizing that November 22, 2013 (Friday) marks fifty years since his assassination.

I realize now thT I was expecting too much from this listserve.

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

        People remember things differently because we are all different. The brain remembers thoughts and feelings too. Usually, when we experience a major event we cannot realize what is happening until afterward. So what we remember are our thoughts and feelings at the time, not always the actual events. When events on 911 occured nobody knew what was happening at that moment. Many people still only remember their thoughts and feelings about the planes crashing into the WTC, nothing else that happened that day and other tragic events. 

        Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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  From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>; 
  To: 'Chasuk' <chasuk at gmail.com>; 'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>; 
  Cc: 'Vision2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com>; 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Where were you . . . 
  Sent: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 9:14:00 AM 

        While I agree that human memory is flawed, I don’t know that I agree with your sweeping generalization about the inaccuracy of human memory.

        I was in OKC & was about five weeks shy of my third birthday.  I was at home with my mother, who was watching her soaps while ironing.  She’d just gotten her bag of sprinkled clothes out of the fridge when the tragedy hit the air.  I had absolutely no understanding of the actual event, but my mother’s reaction is something I clearly recall – it was the first time I ever saw her cry – even if I didn’t understand The Bigger Picture.

        From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Chasuk
        Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:47 PM
        To: Tom Hansen
        Cc: Vision2020
        Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Where were you . . .

        I was also in California,  five days before my 3rd birthday. I don't remember the assassination, but I do remember the countless stories from my chrono-peers who all thought that they did. It was my first lesson on the inaccuracy of human memory. 

        On Nov 18, 2013 12:29 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

        . . . on November 22, 1963?

        I was in the 7th grade at Robert Fulton Junior High School in Van Nuys, California.

        The news of Kennedy's assassination was received at about 11:00 AM.  Some of the teachers were visibly shaken by the news.  The school closed down for the day at noon.

        Do you remember where you were when . . .

        Tom Hansen
        Moscow, Idaho

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