[Vision2020] Fair Warning
betsyd at turbonet.com
Sun Nov 3 11:37:54 PST 2013
Thank you, Rose!
Many thanks and much love,
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Rosemary Huskey
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:35 AM
To: 'Scott Dredge'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'
Subject: [Vision2020] Fair Warning
There were no laws violated, as far as I know, in this election. My
intention (and the issue I raised) was to augment public understanding of
how diverse forces, including the leadership of Christ Church, may/will have
an impact on the political apparatus and public direction the City of Moscow
will take. My recent email illustrated specific examples of what many folks
already identify as advantageous treatment. I cannot vote in the election
because I don't live in the city. If those who can vote wish to live under
the constraints of a sub rosa, paleo-confederate
gle.html> (Doug Wilson's words not mine) theocracy, they will elect the men
that will facilitate that agenda. I hope they don't.
From: Scott Dredge [mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Tom Hansen; Rosemary Huskey
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Let Me Tell You How To Vote
What's the issue here? Is there any law that was violated? I listened to
the MP3 twice and didn't hear 'vote for Bouma'.
From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:50:44 -0700
To: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Let Me Tell You How To Vote
"As you know, it is not my place, from this pulpit, to urge you to vote for
candidate x or candidate y. Vote for Murphy, or vote for Schultz, have no
place here. The pulpit must never become a place for factional politics, or
- Doug Wilson (November 2, 2013)
And just over a year ago . . .
Doug Wilson (October 9, 2012)
"Oh, what a tangled net we weave, . . . "
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
"I''ll just speak for our church, in Christ Church. If I found out that a
member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in the
community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his reputation,
yes, he''d be disciplined.""
- Douglas Wilson (January 31, 2007)
On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Rosemary Huskey" <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
Political, Not Partisan
"As you know, it is not my place, from this pulpit, to urge you to
vote for candidate x or candidate y. Vote for Murphy, or vote for Schultz,
have no place here. The pulpit must never become a place for factional
politics, or partisanship. At the same time, the presence of the Church in
the world is inescapably political, and this means that if we do not draw
the charge of partisanship, we are not doing our job. If we are not drawing
the charge of license, we are not really preaching grace. If we are not
drawing the charge of fatalism, we are not really preaching God's rule over
all things. So then, in the same way, if the political presence of the
Church in the world makes no political difference to those given over to
partisanship, then we are not fulfilling our calling rightly.
The outcome of this local race will make a great deal of practical
difference to us all over the course of the next few years. The margin of
victory in the last mayoral race we had was less than the population of just
one of our parishes. So while I will not be doing any endorsing from this
place, I do charge you-in the name of Jesus Christ-to be present in our town
as a thinking Christian this next Tuesday.
So I can and will tell you that if you are eligible to vote here,
you have a responsibility to do so. This is a responsibility that you must
discharge before God, in a calm and responsible way. You are not to give way
to the lies of secular democracy, which want you to treat your vote in some
sacramental way, as though it were a sacred thing. It is nothing of the
kind. But it is part of your Christian responsibility in seeking the good of
the city where you live. This is not complicated.
One last thing. If you are not up to speed on the issues, then seek
out someone you trust at church after the service, and simply ask."
in a similar vein, and to expand a bit further:
October 18, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Thanks for pressing this point. Let me respond on a simple level,
and perhaps defer what I take to be your more serious point for a separate
blog post. I grant that I treat Christians who support Republicans
differently than I treat Christians who support Democrats. This is because,
when it comes to the basic issues, there are many, many bad Republicans.
There are no good Democrats.
On a practical level, I didn't vote for or support Romney. I voted
for McCain because of the energy that I thought Palin would bring to the
pro-life issue -- which is my screamer issue. I didn't vote for George W
either time. And I was investigated by the Idaho Attorney-General's office
for six months because a complaint had been filed about a comment I made in
Credenda about how I would rather be "dead in a ditch" than vote for
Dole/Kemp. I don't remember how I vote with Bush/Qualye the second time, and
I think I might have voted for them the first time. I voted for Reagan both
times, and am thinking about resuming that practice."
Doug modified in a later post that he apparently meant to say (if
you believe the clarification - I don't) that he didn't necessarily mean all
Democrats were/are bad people, just all the Democratic candidates. And,
this is my point.
The pretention that local city elections are non-partisan is
ridiculous. The GMA (Greater Moscow Association aka Grossly Misleading
Association) are currently enjoying the presidency of Bob Hieronymus. Bob
is the Executive President of New Saint Andrews.
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