[Vision2020] Eurasian collared dove
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Tue Jul 30 21:48:13 PDT 2013
Yes, that is it, and I have never seen one before. Thank you.
Sent from my iPad Sue Hovey
On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:08 PM, "rhayes at frontier.com" <rhayes at frontier.com> wrote:
> We have them here also.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Collared_Dove
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> 1. Superb Radio Australia Discussion Last Night "Darwin,
> Denialism and Climate Change" (Ted Moffett)
> 2. Birder question (Sue Hovey)
> 3. Re: Birder question (Tom Hansen)
> 4. Re: Birder question (Saundra Lund)
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:10:05 -0700
> From: Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Superb Radio Australia Discussion Last Night
> "Darwin, Denialism and Climate Change"
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> Radio Australia just keeps the hits coming...
>
> Maybe I am filtering or biased in some way, probably, but Radio Australia
> impresses me much more than US PBS radio.
>
> The discussion can be listened to at this website:
> Darwin, denialism and climate change Tuesday 30 July 2013 10:20PM
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/darwin-and-climage-change-denial/4852912
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> I checked on the academic bio on the Australian National University website
> for scholar Tom Griffiths, who is interviewed for this discussion:
>
> https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/griffiths-tr
> Biography
>
> Tom Griffiths is a Professor of History in the Research School of Social
> Sciences at the Australian National University, Canberra, and Director of
> the Centre for Environmental History at ANU. His research, writing and
> teaching are in the fields of Australian social, cultural and environmental
> history, the comparative environmental history of settler societies, the
> writing of non-fiction, and the history of Antarctica. Tom's books and
> essays have won prizes in history, science, literature, politics and
> journalism. His most recent monograph, Slicing the Silence: Voyaging to
> Antarctica (UNSW Press and Harvard University Press, 2007), won the
> Queensland and NSW Premiers' awards for Non-Fiction and was the joint
> winner of the Prime Minister's Prize for Australian History in 2008.
> --------------------------------------
> Also, I searched for more published work by this scholar, and found the
> following accessible and fascinating paper, 24 pages long A short excerpt
> from the end of the paper is pasted in.
>
> Australia is an amazing place, with a very long history of human
> habitation, much longer than North America, if I have my facts straight, as
> this paper discusses.
>
> It's reassuring to realize that even non-technological so called primitive
> ancestors of modern humans survived large scale climate change. Of course,
> for us to survive it likely will disrupt our indulgent resource and energy
> intensive extractive way of life, at least for the majority of people. The
> rich and powerful, maybe they can live continue to live lives of kings and
> queens...
>
> "Let them eat cake!"
>
> http://www.history.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/GRIFFITHS%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0A%20Humanist%20on%20Thin%20Ice.pdf
>
> Published in
> Griffith Review 29
> (August 2010)
>
> A Humanist on Thin Ice
>
> Science and the humanities, people and climate change
>
> Tom Griffiths
>
> Short excerpt from pages 21-22:
>
> The only way to make sense of our predicament is to look deeply into the
> ice
> we are losing. It is to go back to the last big ice age and beyond, to
> times of
> rapid and substantial temperature change. And when we are searching for
> some vestige of human agency among all this icy determinism, we might turn
> to an example in our own backyard. The history of the Aboriginal peoples of
> Australia takes humans back, if not into the ice, then certainly into the
> ice age,
> into the depths of the last glacial maximum of twenty thousand years ago
> and
> beyond, into and through periods of temperature change of 5 ?Celsius and
> more, such as those we might also face. When Europeans and North
> Americans look for cultural beginnings they are often prompted to tell you
> that humans and their civilizations are products of the Holocene,and that
> we
> are all children of this recent spring of cultural creativity. By contrast,
> an
> Australian history of the world takes us back to humanity?s first deep-sea
> voyagers of sixty thousand years ago, to the experience of people surviving
> cold ice-age droughts in the central Australian deserts, and to the
> sustaining
> of human civilization in the face of massive climate change. This is a
> story that
> modern Australians have only just discovered, and now perhaps it offers a
> parable for the world.
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> From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> To: "'Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Birder question
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> Someone tell me what this bird is:
>
> It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back lawn a few minutes ago. It walked like a dove. It?s most distinguishing feature was a black ring around it?s neck. I think it went all the way around. I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s. I have never before seen one like it.
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> Anyone know?
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> Sue H.
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> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> Cc: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Birder question
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> Sue -
>
> Do any of these birds resemble the one you saw?
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=bird+black+ring+around+neck&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SGT4UYT0JqS-igKM6YGYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672
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> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
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> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.moscowcares.com/
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> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
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> On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
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> > Someone tell me what this bird is:
> >
> > It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back lawn a few minutes ago. It walked like a dove. It?s most distinguishing feature was a black ring around it?s neck. I think it went all the way around. I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s. I have never before seen one like it.
> >
> > Anyone know?
> >
> > Sue H.
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:05:38 -0700
> From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>, Vision 2020
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Birder question
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> I'll ask the obvious: is it a collared dove? The first one I'd seen
> showed up in my yard two years ago & then he left for the winter. We
> had none the following year, but this year, I've seen 8-10 different
> ones.
>
> Saundra
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013, at 06:05 PM, Sue Hovey wrote:
> > Someone tell me what this bird is:
> >
> > It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back
> > lawn a few minutes ago. It walked like a dove. It?s most distinguishing
> > feature was a black ring around it?s neck. I think it went all the way
> > around. I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s. I
> > have never before seen one like it.
> >
> > Anyone know?
> >
> > Sue H.
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