[Vision2020] Eurasian collared dove

rhayes at frontier.com rhayes at frontier.com
Tue Jul 30 21:08:32 PDT 2013


We have them here also. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Collared_Dove 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Superb Radio Australia Discussion Last Night "Darwin,
      Denialism and Climate Change" (Ted Moffett)
   2. Birder question (Sue Hovey)
   3. Re: Birder question (Tom Hansen)
   4. Re: Birder question (Saundra Lund)


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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:10:05 -0700
From: Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] Superb Radio Australia Discussion Last Night
    "Darwin, Denialism and Climate Change"
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Radio Australia just keeps the hits coming...

Maybe I am filtering or biased in some way, probably, but Radio Australia
impresses me much more than US PBS radio.

The discussion can be listened to at this website:
Darwin, denialism and climate change Tuesday 30 July 2013 10:20PM

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/darwin-and-climage-change-denial/4852912

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I checked on the academic bio on the Australian National University website
for scholar Tom Griffiths, who is interviewed for this discussion:

https://researchers.anu.edu.au/researchers/griffiths-tr
Biography

Tom Griffiths is a Professor of History in the Research School of Social
Sciences at the Australian National University, Canberra, and Director of
the Centre for Environmental History at ANU. His research, writing and
teaching are in the fields of Australian social, cultural and environmental
history, the comparative environmental history of settler societies, the
writing of non-fiction, and the history of Antarctica. Tom's books and
essays have won prizes in history, science, literature, politics and
journalism. His most recent monograph, Slicing the Silence: Voyaging to
Antarctica (UNSW Press and Harvard University Press, 2007), won the
Queensland and NSW Premiers' awards for Non-Fiction and was the joint
winner of the Prime Minister's Prize for Australian History in 2008.
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Also, I searched for more published work by this scholar, and found the
following accessible and fascinating paper, 24 pages long  A short excerpt
from the end of the paper is pasted in.

Australia is an amazing place, with a very long history of human
habitation, much longer than North America, if I have my facts straight, as
this paper discusses.

It's reassuring to realize that even non-technological so called primitive
ancestors of modern humans survived large scale climate change.  Of course,
for us to survive it likely will disrupt our indulgent resource and energy
intensive extractive way of life, at least for the majority of people. The
rich and powerful, maybe they can live continue to live lives of kings and
queens...

"Let them eat cake!"

http://www.history.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/GRIFFITHS%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0A%20Humanist%20on%20Thin%20Ice.pdf

Published in
Griffith Review 29
(August 2010)

A Humanist on Thin Ice

Science and the humanities, people and climate change

Tom Griffiths

Short excerpt from pages 21-22:

The only way to make sense of our predicament is to look deeply into the
ice
we are losing. It is to go back to the last big ice age and beyond, to
times of
rapid and substantial temperature change. And when we are searching for
some vestige of human agency among all this icy determinism, we might turn
to an example in our own backyard. The history of the Aboriginal peoples of
Australia takes humans back, if not into the ice, then certainly into the
ice age,
into the depths of the last glacial maximum of twenty thousand years ago
and
beyond, into and through periods of temperature change of 5 ?Celsius and
more, such as those we might also face. When Europeans and North
Americans look for cultural beginnings they are often prompted to tell you
that humans and their civilizations are products of the Holocene,and that
we
are all children of this recent spring of cultural creativity. By contrast,
an
Australian history of the world takes us back to humanity?s first deep-sea
voyagers of sixty thousand years ago, to the experience of people surviving
cold ice-age droughts in the central Australian deserts, and to the
sustaining
of human civilization in the face of massive climate change. This is a
story that
modern Australians have only just discovered, and now perhaps it offers a
parable for the world.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:05:07 -0700
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: "'Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] Birder question
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Someone tell me what this bird is:

It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back lawn a few minutes ago.  It walked like a dove.  It?s most distinguishing feature was a black ring around it?s neck.  I think it went all the way around.  I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s.  I have never before seen one like it. 

Anyone know?

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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:12:53 -0700
From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
Cc: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Birder question
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Sue -

Do any of these birds resemble the one you saw?

http://www.google.com/search?q=bird+black+ring+around+neck&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SGT4UYT0JqS-igKM6YGYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.moscowcares.com/
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon



On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:

> Someone tell me what this bird is:
>  
> It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back lawn a few minutes ago.  It walked like a dove.  It?s most distinguishing feature was a black ring around it?s neck.  I think it went all the way around.  I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s.  I have never before seen one like it.
>  
> Anyone know?
>  
> Sue H. 
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:05:38 -0700
From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>, Vision 2020
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I'll ask the obvious:  is it a collared dove?  The first one I'd seen
showed up in my yard two years ago & then he left for the winter.  We
had none the following year, but this year, I've seen 8-10 different
ones.

Saundra

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013, at 06:05 PM, Sue Hovey wrote:
> Someone tell me what this bird is:
> 
> It was the size of a flicker, but very light in color and was on our back
> lawn a few minutes ago.  It walked like a dove.  It?s most distinguishing
> feature was a black ring around it?s neck.  I think it went all the way
> around.  I can?t find one that fits this description in my Sibley?s.  I
> have never before seen one like it. 
> 
> Anyone know?
> 
> Sue H.  
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>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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