[Vision2020] FW: For those interested in the CUP - What's This Public Hearing About?
Joe Campbell
philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Wed Jul 24 10:14:07 PDT 2013
I don't want to get in to it now but this goes against EVERYTHING they said
when the issue of whether NSA should even be downtown came up in a variety
of different discussions, both public and private. Then the question was,
What kind of impact would the school have downtown (which is precisely why
the downtown prohibited schools in the code)? Then the answer was (to
paraphrase) "There is no impact; there will be no impact because we are not
growing; we have no intention of growing." Several folks explicitly brought
up parking and it was brushed aside. Joe
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:
> I think they should do the same thing that they did when the lot was a
> private lot for GTE employees. Whatever that was. I'm assuming the city
> charged GTE for the use of the lot. If they did, they might need to update
> their fees. If they didn't, then they shouldn't charge NSA either.
>
> Paul
>
>
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> *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *To:* Stephanie Kalasz <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us>
> *Cc:* "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] FW: For those interested in the CUP - What's
> This Public Hearing About?
>
> So they want a lot that just NSA folks can use BUT they want to be able to
> use the public lot, also. Kind of cake-and-eat-yours-too deal.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Stephanie Kalasz <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us
> > wrote:
>
> From the Community Development Director Bill Belknap:****
> ** **
> The application contains a request to utilize an existing private parking
> lot located on the west side of Jackson Street between the Cowin Residence
> at 517 S. Jackson and the prior Mary Jane store location at 421 S. Jackson,
> for the New Saint Andrews College use. For reference for those that have
> been in the community awhile, the subject property was used as the
> GTE/Verizon employee parking lot about 12-15 years ago. The request *does
> not* include use of the public parking lot located on the east side of
> Jackson Street. The Conditional Use Permit is required as parking lots,
> public or private, are required to be open to the public as a by right
> permitted principal use within the Central Business District while
> Educational Institutions are a Conditionally Permitted Use. The application
> requests that the parking lot be reserved for use by NSA students, faculty
> and staff from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Monday-Friday, and open to the public
> after 5:00 PM and on weekends. The hearing notice included the correct
> date, but stated the wrong day of the week, so it will be held on *
> Wednesday*, July 31st at 7:00 PM and a corrected notice is being
> published, posted and mailed today to clarify the meeting date. The
> application and related materials are available for review in our office at
> 221 E. Second Street and will be posted on the City’s website by no later
> than 5:00 PM this Friday, July 26th. ****
> ** **
> * *
> ** **
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [
> mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com <vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Sue Hovey
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:23 PM
> *To:* Tom Hansen; Saundra Lund
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] What's This Public Hearing About?****
> ** **
> If an entity is going to be using the lot for their own parking
> exclusively, should there not be a lease with a cost attached? ****
> ****
> Sue H****
> ****
> *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> ** **
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:16 PM****
> *To:* Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> ****
> *Cc:* mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com <vision2020 at moscow.com> ****
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] What's This Public Hearing About?****
> ****
> Per Moscow City Code****
> --------------------------------------****
> ****
> *TITLE 4 — ZONING CODE *****
> *Sec. 3-5. *****
> *Central Business Zoning District (CB). *****
> D. Conditional Uses: ****
> 8. Commercial schools and educational institutions, with specific
> consideration given to traffic, parking, safety and nuisance issues, as
> well as cumulative impacts of and proximity to existing commercial schools
> and educational institutions in the vicinity and impact on availability of
> retail and office space, especially at street level. Applications for
> educational institutions shall be accompanied by a detailed, written
> description of plans, including present student enrollment, staff on site,
> site development and future enrollment growth and any phasing thereof.***
> *
> --------------------------------------****
> ****
> Apparently a school has applied for use of that parking lot by that
> school's students, staff and faculty.****
> ****
> Question: Where exactly is this parking lot located (nearest cross
> street)****
> ****
> Another thing: The notice establishes *Tuesday, July 31, 2013* as the
> hearing date. There is no Tuesday, July 31, 2013.****
> ****
> Is the hearing on Tuesday, July 30th, or Wednesday, July 31st. I and my
> cameras want to know.****
> ****
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .****
> ****
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)****
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> Tom Hansen****
> Moscow, Idaho****
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> "There's room at the top they are telling you still ****
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
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> ** **
> - John Lennon****
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> On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:50 PM, "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> wrote:****
>
> Visionaries,********
> **** ****
> We have an out-of-town visitor & were strolling around downtown last
> evening when I saw a notice of a public hearing at the entrance of that
> parking lot on Jackson right by Mary Jane Butters' little shop. I really
> couldn't tell much from the posted notice, and tried looking on the City's
> Web site when we got home.********
> **** ****
> I did find this, which is nothing more than what I saw posted:********
>
> http://www.ci.moscow.id.us/records/Public%20Hearing%20Notices/NPH%20LUP2013-0014%20505%20S%20Jackson%2007-31-13.pdf
> ********
> **** ****
> NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING********
> **** ****
> Proposal for Conditional Use Permit 505 S. Jackson Street********
> Permit Application LUP2013-0014********
> **** ****
> A public hearing at which you may be present and speak will be conducted
> before the Board of Adjustment of the City of Moscow at which time the
> following proposals will be considered:********
> **** ****
> *1. Conditional Use Permit application for an educational institution to
> use an existing parking lot for student and employee parking within the
> Central Business District MCC 4-3-5(D)(8).*********
> **** ****
> *HEARING DATE: **Tuesday, July 31,2013*********
> **** ****
> *HEARING LOCATION: **Council Chambers on the Second Floor of Moscow City
> Hall 206 East Third Street**, **Moscow, Idaho*********
> **** ****
> *MEETING TIME: **7:00pm*********
> **** ****
> Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be more information available online
> L********
> **** ****
> Does anyone know more about this?********
> **** ****
> It’s been awhile, but my recollection of zoning requirements in the CBD is
> that something like this really doesn’t belong, so I’m trying to learn more.
> ********
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> **** ****
> TIA,********
> Saundra********
> Moscow, ID********
> **** ****
> The highest realms of thought are impossible to reach without first
> attaining an understanding of compassion.********
> ~ Socrates********
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