[Vision2020] Another hate group

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 13 21:22:46 PST 2013


I'm with Roger on this. Maybe they're complete nut jobs, but I don't know that they're a hate group. 

What is the evidence behind that claim?

Sunil

Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:36:50 +0100
To: thansen at moscow.com; keim153 at gmail.com
From: lfalen at turbonet.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; rhayes at frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group


I do not know anything about this group, but how does anyone know that they are a hate group?  A little bit wako probably, but not necessarily a hate group.Roger




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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group
From: "Tom Hansen" 
To: "Darrell Keim" 
Date: 01/13/13 23:12:16






How's this for "freedom""





My father was a POW in Stalag Luft IIIA during the last year and a half of WW2.  I am convinced that he experienced less isolation than the freedom-loving residents of the Citadel.

Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .


"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


"There's room at the top they are telling you still  
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 



- John Lennon
   


On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

 
Goodie.  So it will be like Bo Gritz "Almost Heaven" near Kamiah.  Wonderful.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, rhayes at frontier.com <rhayes at frontier.com> wrote:

 The Southern Poverty Law Center has dismissed this "group" as a couple of guys with a computer who are trying to drum up a following and bilk those who take the bait of cash.


  
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:19:39 -0800
From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in
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Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in
Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of
a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.

They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's
"Rightful Liberty."

http://iiicitadel.com/location.html

Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:25:51 -0800
From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
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Ya mean this one?

http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr

Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"
http://www.moscowcares.com/
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon


On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.
> 
> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."
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> http://iiicitadel.com/location.html
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> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:31:48 -0800
From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
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>From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that
will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire
county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing
double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in
> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of
> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.
>
> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas
> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."
>
> http://iiicitadel.com/location.html
>
> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:42:11 -0800
From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in
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Yep-That's the one!  Always good to have our little slice of heaven in the
national media, right?

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Ya mean this one?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.moscowcares.com/
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in
> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of
> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.
>
> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas
> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."
>
> http://iiicitadel.com/location.html
>
> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.
>
> =======================================================
> List services made available by First Step Internet,
> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:46:58 -0800
From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
To: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
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Agreed.  And they'll start with a firearms factory.

Have you read their Patriot Agreement?  They sure do think weapons
proficiency is patriotic!

Whole thing reads wacky to me.  Makes me want to laugh, ala The Colbert
Report Tom linked.  But, so did the Aryan Nations before they actually went
ahead and set-up a compound...

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that
> will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire
> county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing
> double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in
>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of
>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.
>>
>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas
>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."
>>
>> http://iiicitadel.com/location.html
>>
>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.
>>
>>
>> =======================================================
>>  List services made available by First Step Internet,
>>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>>                http://www.fsr.net/
>>          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>> =======================================================
>>
>
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