[Vision2020] WWJS?

Wed Feb 6 13:58:40 PST 2013

Funny seeing how it was you that brought the Bible into the discussion in
the first place.

Please forgive me if I don't bother with the link. Your cats thoughts,
while likely more cogent then your own, are of little interest to me.

g

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> The bottom line, g . . .
>
> Regardless of your interpretation of the Bible or my interpretation of the
> Bible, our laws are man-made.  Being agnostic, and not all that religious,
> I do not believe that our laws should be modeled on a theocratic culture.
>
> Concerning your self-righteous judgmental attitude, I shared your comments
> with Boss Cat, a recent feline addition to the Hansen abode.  Here, in
> terms of which I am certain you are familiar, is . . .
>
> . . . what Boss Cat thinks.
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Photos/What_Boss_Cat_Thinks.jpg
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what "lie" you think you have caught me in. I suspect it
> manifests itself only in your mind and as such I'll simply move on.
>
> Citing Matt 26:52 from various and sundry different translations does
> nothing to bolster the argument that it can be applied in any way to the
> current discussion over firearms. If the passage you cite were to be taken
> literally as you imply, Jesus would be in absolute error. Many people "live
> by the sword." Police, security guards, soldiers, professional hunters, and
> just plain people who are firearms enthusiasts all live by the sword, most
> do not die by it.
>
> Let's, for the sake of expediency, assume that the passage means exactly
> what you are trying to say it means. Thank you for the heads up, I'll take
> my chances, now go pound sand. As someone who has been a major proponent of
> church/state separation, I have to wonder why you even bring a bible
> passage into the discussion no matter how poor your understanding of it.
>
> g
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> 52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who
>> draw the sword will die by the sword.
>> - Matthew 26:52
>>
>> New International Version (NIV)
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+26%3A52&version=NIV
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw
>> the sword will die by the sword.
>>
>> - Matthew 26:52
>> http://bible.cc/matthew/26-52.htm
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for
>> all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
>> - Matthew 26:52 (King James Version)
>> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+26%3A52&version=KJV
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> 52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who
>> draw the sword will die by the sword.
>>
>> - Matthew 26:52
>> http://www.biblestudytools.com/matthew/26-52.html
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who
>> take the sword will perish by the sword.
>>
>> - Matthew 26:52
>> http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/search?q=Matthew+26%3A52
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> And so on . . . and so on . . . and so on . . . and so on . . .
>>
>> If you're gonna lie, g, at least make it a believable lie.
>>
>> Care to share a link to the source of your "interpretation"?
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:36 AM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ah! One of my favorite pastimes, dueling Bible passages used out of
>> context.
>>
>> *Matt. 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the
>> earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."*
>> **
>> *g*
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:39 PM
>> *To:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] WWJS?
>>
>>  "Then Jesus said to him, 'Put your sword back into its place. For all
>> who take the sword will perish by the sword.'"
>>
>> - Matthew 26:52-54
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>>  Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In other words, I doubt He'd say much at all.  I don't picture him as
>> someone who would get all worked up.  It would probably have something to
>> do with judging the man's heart and not the weight of iron at his hip.  The
>> apparent fact that you think he'd find something wrong with this is the
>> part that baffles me.
>>
>> But then, I'm not a biblical scholar.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 02/05/2013 07:34 PM, Art Deco wrote:
>>
>>  Somehow it appears that you missed the point of WWJS?
>>
>> w.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> People on this list might find this very disconcerting, but there is
>>> actually nothing evil about owning a firearm, or carrying a firearm for
>>> defense, or even in using a firearm not against another person or their
>>> property (though they might frown on firing one off in church).  It's only
>>> when you are shooting another person or their property with one that the
>>> moral ambiguities arise.
>>>
>>> Again, because I think this point is important, "firearm" (not equal to)
>>> "evil".
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:41 PM
>>> *Subject:* [Vision2020] WWJS?
>>>
>>>  WWJS?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/05/arkansas-to-allow-concealed-guns-in-churches/?hpt=hp_t2
>>>
>>> --
>>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>>> art.deco.studios at gmail.com
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> art.deco.studios at gmail.com
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