[Vision2020] Welfare vs Minimum Wage

[Donovan Arnold]

Social Security isn't welfare. People pay into it and get it back later on. 
 

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 From: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
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Social Security is welfare.  Although most of us have paid into it, it is was a tax and not a contribution to a personal account.  The rules can and have been changed to decide who is eligible and for how much.  




On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

Mr. Crabtree -
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>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
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>Tom Hansen
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>"There's room at the top they are telling you still  But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
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>On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
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>"So if someone id 90 years old and could be a WalMart greeter, they should not get social security?"
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>>Why do you attempt to blur social security and welfare? 
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>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>So if someone id 90 years old and could be a WalMart greeter, they should not get social security?
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>>>How do you determine who is capable of working given whatever employment opportunities exist and what constraints a person maybe under (where they live, transportation available, health, etc)?
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>>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>I think it was the wording.  I think he read "restrict welfare payments to" as "limit welfare payments to", thinking you meant that only those who could work would get the payments.  What I presume you meant was more akin to "reduce welfare payments to", meaning that if you are capable of working you should get less of a pay out.  
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>>>> From: Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
>>>>To: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> 
>>>>Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:17 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Welfare vs Minimum Wage
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>>>>Do you truly think that is what I was trying to convey?
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>>>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>So children, the elderly, and the disabled would not be eligible?
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>>>>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>Or better yet, restrict welfare payments to people capable of working.  
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>>>>>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>Easy solution:  Raise the minimum wage.
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>>>>>>>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>Here's an article right up the alley of Fox News.  Time once again to beat up on welfare moms and cast no blame upon deadbeat dads.
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>>>>>>>>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/21/study-in-most-states-welfare-pays-more-than-minimum-wage-job/
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