[Vision2020] Fw: Isn't it ironic

[Rosemary Huskey]

I think a little brush up on history is needed here.  The following description provides a more complete answer to the starvation time of the Jamestown settlement.  It is worth the read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamestown,_Virginia  While I recognize the issues involved with citing Wikipedia, there are lots of interesting links with the article.  Further, the starvation time for the Jamestown settlement had many complex factors, none of which were wasn't solved in a single year.
Rose Huskey

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of lfalen
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:28 PM
To: Saundra Lund; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Isn't it ironic

Saundra
Of course it is illegal, that is part of the reason for the sign. That does not change the basic truth of the statement. Animals should be treated humanly.  There are times when it is legitimate to feed wild animal. In severe winters hay is dropped to elk and deer to keep them from starving. The point is that people who become dependant on handouts may not try very hard to find work. The first winter at Jamestown, it was everyone should take care of everyone. There was starvation that winter. The next year everyone was to provide for themselves and there was plenty of food. Again those that are unable to take care of themselves should be provided for. And for a short time those that are down on their luck, but this should be of short duration. I know of people with disabilities that still are able to fend for themselves. My daughter has a mild form of Narcolepsy an  does not drive. She takes care of two small children, runs a Yoga Studio, works at the Pullman Aquatic Center !
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teaches a course at WSU.  A neighbor here in Genesee supposedly has Epilepsy. He is about 55, appears to be able bodied and drives. He receives a disability payment from SS, lives in low income housing and receives food stamps.  He has a MS in Psychology.  He has not worked that I know of  since he has been in Genesee. I know of several other people who have epilepsy, are on Dilantin and work, including my brother. Again it is fine to help those that are down on their luck for a short time, but do not make it perpetual.
incidently I like your Burke by line. I use it myself. He was a Conservative you know.
Roger
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From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:53:15 -0800
To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: Isn't it ironic

> Roger, I see you've already gotten great responses by Ron Force, Wayne Fox, Donovan Arnold, & Rose pointing out some of the fallacies inherent in the twisting of "Don't Feed the Animals."
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> I have a couple of additional comments.
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> First, whoever came up with that nonsense that you posted clearly isn't aware of the FACT that feeding wildlife in national parks is actually illegal.  Duh -- the signs aren't a request, they are a warning.  But, why should the mental midget who came up with the email -- or those who agree with the morally repugnant sentiment behind it -- be bothered with objective facts???
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> Second, I'm beyond gob-smacked at the lack of . . . intellect of someone who thinks it appropriate to try to connect how we treat wildlife to how human beings -- ANY human beings -- ought to be treated.  The real irony, of course, is that the numbskull behind the email is undoubtedly one who chortles at every opportunity that since man is superior to other animals, those wild animals can be treated differently/less ethically/less humanely than human beings.
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> But, hey -- let's run with that thinking for just a minute  :-)
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> Certainly, many of the most severe crises faced by earth could be 
> solved if there was no reason to treat human beings differently than 
> wildlife.  For instance, there would be no more concerns about 
> population because we could just kill all the "extra" people and 
> mandate birth control instead of getting all squeamish about things 
> like religious liberty  :-)  That would do a lot to address the 
> world's energy crisis, too  :-)  Wipe out enough of the population -- 
> oh, say, like some want to do with wolves -- and we wouldn't need 
> regulations about clean air & water & all that stuff because there 
> wouldn't be enough people to screw things up the way we humans 
> historically have  :-)
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> LOL -- there *is* a certain appeal to that, isn't there  :-)
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> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
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> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of lfalen
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 5:23 PM
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> Please note before you land all over me for posting this, that I do not have a problem with helping the truly needy and the disabled. I also support our local food banks. The problem is that a lot of able bodied people that could find work do not.
> Roger
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> Subject:  Isn't it ironic.........
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> The SNAP/Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
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> Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed The Animals." This is because the animals may grow dependent on handouts and not learn to take care of themselves.
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> Thus endeth today’s Lesson.
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