[Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

Sun Jun 24 13:34:02 PDT 2012

Like Paul, I'm not an attorney, nor have I ever played one on TV <g>, but my
reading of the complaint is a little different than is his.

Paul wrote:

"Greensides was not setup correctly as a corporation that they can try to
get the money they allege is owed to them directly from Doug and the two
other defendants and apparently 5 "John Does" which are presumably other
Greensides Inc board members."

Actually, I think that part of the complaint pertains to unjust personal
enrichment in addition to some failure to properly incorporate Greensides,
Inc.  Certain defendants apparently took positive action to have their homes
included in the subdivision and received personal gain/benefits from the
work Germer did.

Now, which defendants those are and what personal benefit those defendants
gained is difficult to tell because where's the contract?  It's referenced
in the Complaint as an attached exhibit, but it doesn't seem to be included
in the Complaint Tom has posted.

This whole thing is confusing to me.  I definitely am not up on the
complexities of subdivision development, but it seems to me US Bank financed
at least some part of Greensides because I remember seeing their sign out
there for a very long time.

Anyway, what happened to all that money?  Did they just hand the lump sum
over to Greensides, Inc.?  Isn't that kind of money typically doled out to
the borrower/developer as expenses are incurred?  And, if that's the case,
what happened to that money if it wasn't used to pay companies like Germer
Construction?

But, as long as we're on the topic of Greensides, this certainly isn't the
first time those associated with the development have tried to skip out on
paying what's owed.  As I recall, several liens were placed on the initial
two new units constructed because local businesses weren't paid for their
work, and Design Craft Homes, LLC  doesn't pay its debts, either.

There certainly seems to have been more than the normal amount of smoke &
mirrors involved with the Greensides development!

It will be interesting to see how this case plays out.  I'm surprised a case
of this magnitude hasn't been covered by the local press, but then again,
perhaps the Moscow-Pullman Daily News is a little embarrassed that they
wrote an extensive front page article about Mike Hoffman basically
presenting him as the best thing to happen to Moscow development since the
arrival of sliced bread.  Oops.

Saundra

Moscow, ID

I distrust those who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice
it always coincides with their own desires.

~ Susan B. Anthony

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:30 PM
To: Joe Campbell
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

Germer Construction is apparently alleging that the work they did by
contract for Greensides Inc was not paid for, and that they are owed the
original amount plus interest plus $200 a day for an extended period due
thanks to particulars in the contract.

They are also alleging that Tom's old friend Doug Wilson is one of the board
members of Greensides and that as they believe that Greensides was not setup
correctly as a corporation that they can try to get the money they allege is
owed to them directly from Doug and the two other defendants and apparently
5 "John Does" which are presumably other Greensides Inc board members.

Take the above with a grain of salt, I just skimmed it.  I am not a lawyer,
etc, etc.

I'm sure Tom is saddened to know that Doug is named in this court document
and is trying to garner community support for his plight :)

Paul

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From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020
<vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

What is it?

On Jun 22, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

You must be positively giddy about this :)

Paul

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From: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>
To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

As I am busy converting and formatting various documents, you are free to
browse . . .

Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray,
and Hoffman)
http://www.MoscowCares.com/GermerGreensides/

Stay tuned, V-Peeps, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

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