[Vision2020] [link added] We, Intoleristas . . .

[Scott Dredge]

It's got some substance Dr. Gier, you just need to cut through a lot of Doug's crap to see some of it:

<Everything goes great in this world of monochrome diversity until someone actually disagrees with them in their town>
This happened.

<They cannot handle disagreement and debate, and so to the extent that they have to talk at all they resort immediately to shrill invective.>
This is still happening and you can see it in the threads about 'gun control & the NRA' and 'global warming'.

<But they would rather not talk at all, and so they resort quite quickly to the instruments of harassment and coercion.>
This is happening.

<This is what has happened in every place in the world where they have had their way.>
This is true.  Might makes right.  We're lucky to live in a country where individual rights are protected against mob rule.

<These people we are up against are as intolerant as it gets. While I grant they are not as dangerous as they used to be, they are certainly as noisy as they used to be.>
Intolerance cuts both ways.  Atheists can be just as intolerant and Fundy religious types.  Again, we're lucky to live in a country where individual rights are protected against mob rule.

As for your comment that <[Doug's] is a very narrow world indeed>, I agree with this as it's quite obvious.  Even so, Doug and his gullible flock deserve the exact same Constitutional rights and protections as everyone else even though they doesn't believe in the Constitution and do not believe in an egalitarian society.

<Happy New Year to all beings> I couldn't agree more. :)

-Scott

Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:45:59 -0800
From: ngier at uidaho.edu
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RE: [Vision2020] [link added] We, Intoleristas . . .




Hi Tom,



Thanks for posting this.  I had not read it either before now.  It is vintage Wilson--all rhetoric and sarcasm with little substance.  Much like his papers for my philosophy classes.



Some time ago a Kirker accused me of being a "Hindu-Lover," or something like that.  I had to inform him that I have supported four Indians for their studies:  one Christian who is now practicing psychotherapy in Australia, one Hindu for his art career, and a man and wife team (both devout Christians). My Hindu friends may have good reason to charge that I'm a "Christian-lover."



The husband just finished his Ph.D. at the University of Denver on the psychology of being a Christian untouchable. (I thought that they did not exist.) It was a brilliant analysis that gained him a dissertation prize of $2,000.  The wife just graduated summa cum laude from the School of Nursing and the University of Houston. 



I had a great weekend celebrating with them (Indian food at every meal) and a wonderful church service for Telegu-speaking Christians.  What a change when they switched from the stodgy English hymns to the ones in Telegu.  The tamborines and tabla came out, and I was able sing along because an IT guy projected the phonetic equivalents on a screen.  A weekend of total immersion in Indian culture that will never be forgotten.



Wilson praises that fact that many, but not as many as he implies, Latin Americans have converted to Pentecostal Christianity. (The highest percentage of them in coffee producing countries is 20 percent in Gautemala.) As he does with his right hand, he calls American Pentecostals less than Christian on the left.  (I can play the right and left hand game as well as he can.)  There is absolutely no healing, speaking in tongues, prophesying, and holy rolling at Christ Church.



The only foreign travel Doug Wilson did was on U.S. subs.  He doesn't have a clue what multiculturalism is or what seasoned travelers experience and learn in foreign lands.  His is a very narrow world indeed.



Happy New Year to all beings,



Nick







A society grows great when old men plant the seeds of trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.



-Greek proverb







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