[Vision2020] The Horror

[Andy Boyd]

Who said anything about confiscating?

Unfortunately, what's out there is out there.

Andy Boyd

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: Joe Campbell
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Horror

 

Minimal? Confiscating lawfully owned, legally purchased (to the tune of
thousands of dollars in many cases) property from millions of law abiding
citizens? Odd definition you have for "minimal."

 

g

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
wrote:

Other human beings, food, clothing, and shelter. Other than these, I can't
think of any material things that are essential to happiness. That is why
the government -- generally speaking -- can restrict almost anything when it
comes to material things. Not that it should. I share with you that
governmental restrictions should be limited. But you're not going to be able
to draw a line and put somethings -- guns, for instance -- on one side of
that line and other things on the other. What matters, in this case, is
whether banning semiautomatic weapons would reduce gun violence and the kind
of impact it would have on the lives of others. If guns would reduce
violence and the impact on our actual liberties would be minimal, then it
seems like the right thing to do.

Unfortunately we can't really have this conversation yet, the one we should
be having.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
wrote:

 

 

Why don't you provide me with a few examples of some material things that
meet your criterion for "essential to happiness?"

 

 

g

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
wrote:

Not "makes you happy"; are semiautomatics essential to your happiness? No.

On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
wrote:

 

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
wrote:

"Name one use of a semiautomatic weapon that would count as a right,
something essential to your life, liberty, and happiness. You can't do it."

The same argument could be applied to nearly anything. By the way firearms
make me happy so I guess you're wrong, I can "do it."

 

g

 

 

 

 

 

 

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