[Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

[Saundra Lund]

Hogwash - a conviction is proof that there was no Constitutional right to
shoot the victim.

 

And, just because I point out the obvious, you are way out of line to label
me as a "gun-a-phobe."  What's the matter, can't deal with logic & facts and
prefer instead to deal in fantasy?

 

Saundra

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Price
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:49 AM
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: Moscow Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

Paul,

 

Since I was the one that posted the original, I have to say YOU are 100%
correct!

And notice that ANYONE  who is "charged", by standing on the rights afforded
them by the US Constitution in a fire arms case is being labeled as  a
"sniveling weanies",

is there any reason to even try to enter into a reasonable discussion with
the "gun-a-phobes"?

 

I'm waiting for the next foot to fall when they come up with only police
officers should carry firearms! That worked really really well for

Otto Zehm and  Erik Scott!

 

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Paul Rumelhart [mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: Saundra Lund; 'Moscow Vision2020'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

That's not a very good characterization of what that saying means.  I take
it to mean that if you ever find yourself in a situation where you will
literally die if you don't fight your way out of it, then it's better to be
armed and survive than to be unarmed and die despite the impending court
case which will follow.  Notice that it doesn't mean that you should step
into a situation you could easily have avoided, because then the comparison
is between being judged by 12 vs. nothing at all.  It's all about personal
defense, not some kind of Rambo fetish or some bizarre need to tie up the
court system.

 

Paul

 


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From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
To: 'Moscow Vision2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

That might not be complete nonsense if those who'd rather be "judged by 12
than carried by 6" didn't turn into sniveling weanies when they arejudged by
12.

 

Given that, what it really  means is, "I've got a gun, and even though those
who know me know I don't have good judgment, I've decided I'mgoing to be
judge, jury, and executioner all by myself and then hope I get away with it.
And if I don't, then I'm going to rant & rave how corrupt & unfair the
justice system is, and I'm going to do everything in my power to not accept
that judgment by 12.  And, I'm going to eat up taxpayer dollars by tying up
the courts with my nonsense, and then I'm going to rant & rave even more
about how inefficient & wasteful the justice system is because I don't want
to take my medicine for harming or killing another human being.  And, I'm
going to play financial games so that hopefully I can get someone else to
pay my legal expenses - there are plenty of sympathetic deep pockets who
disrespect the judicial system as much as I do and love to waste taxpayer
dollars for The Cause."

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Price
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:50 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: Moscow Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.


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