[Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 11 18:25:14 PDT 2012
I don't actually have one, so I can flap my gums without fear of
self-censure :)
Paul
On 08/11/2012 02:34 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote:
> CWP holders will be reluctant to pipe up in as much as part of
> concealed is keeping your yap shut and avoiding telling all of Gods
> creation that you're healed. Your opinion is looked on with favor by
> some to be sure.
> A recent example of an armed citizen exercising his rights to good effect:
> http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/71-Year-Old-Man-Shoots-Would-Be-Robbers-at-Ocala-Internet-Cafe-Authorities-162941656.html
> To say that a guy with a hand gun has never prevented a massacre is
> illogical in as much as who can say what might have happened had a
> different path been followed? In one scenario two goblins are wounded
> and taken to jail. In another, a dozen innocents minding their own
> business in a internet café are senselessly murdered...film at 11:00
> g
>
> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
> Promoting . . .
>
>
> Yes, you'd have to be damn sure about your line of fire. Firing in
> the middle of a frenzied crowd running panicked for the exits would
> surely be asking for trouble. However, it's my understanding that for
> a while during the shooting the shooter had complete control of the
> situation. Anyone trying to leave was shot. Many people were playing
> dead in the hopes they would be passed over. Firing on the shooter,
> even if he's in body armor, might distract him enough that some people
> might have made it to the exits. Body armor doesn't make you
> invincible, depending on the armor and the caliber of the weapon used
> you might still have made an impact, since he'd still be hit by the
> blunt force of the bullet. In this situation, though, you would
> probably also have been shot dead shortly after because he was so well
> prepared (vest, leggings, throat protector, groin protector, and a
> helmet with a visor). Who knows? Telling a loved one "when I start
> shooting, RUN for the exit and don't stop" might have worked.
>
> Most other shootings like this we've heard about haven't involved such
> a heavily armored assailant. In fact, quite a few of them have taken
> place in areas where gun use is often restricted, such as in schools
> or on university campuses. Harris and Kliebold wore T-shirts and cargo
> pants at Columbine. A student who had happened to have smuggled a gun
> into the school might have been able to have had a real impact on that
> event.
>
> An interesting thing to think about, in my opinion. Apparently, that
> opinion is not shared on this list.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 08/11/2012 08:13 AM, Art Deco wrote:
>> It's hard to think of something more foolish than someone or ones
>> with a hand gun in a disorganized, panicky crowd trying to shoot a
>> person with a automatic weapon shielded by body armor. How many more
>> victims would be added to the final body count?
>>
>> Didn't something like this happen in the Moscow Massacre?
>>
>> w.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Donovan Arnold
>> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com <mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> While your wife if shopping Tri-State, you should be to. I mean
>> come on, support your community why don't you. :)
>> Donovan J. Arnold
>>
>> *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>
>> *To:* Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>>
>> *Cc:* "<vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>"
>> <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 6:47 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
>> Promoting . . .
>>
>> You may very well be right, Sunil.
>>
>> It's just a habit I have acquired while in the service. Trust
>> those around you, but keep your powder dry.
>>
>> I saw the poster at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, this is
>> the first time I have seen such an advertisement in Moscow. I
>> checked a few things out, such as its website, phone number, etc.
>> etc. etc. (Hey, I needed something to pass the time while my wife
>> was shopping at Tri-State).
>>
>> The more I dug, the more red flags I found. The more red flags I
>> found, the more I dug. I have so many info sources, concerning
>> the NFT Academy, bookmarked for reference I am thinking of
>> discarding half of 'em.
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
>> college students are not very active in local elections (thank
>> goodness!)."
>>
>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
>> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've taken such a class and in the past had a concealed weapon
>>> permit; who knows, I may again. I don't think this class is a
>>> big deal.
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>> From: thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:41:58 -0700
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
>>> Promoting . . .
>>>
>>> The primary reason this caught my eye . . .
>>>
>>> I have lived here in Moscow for just over twenty years. The is
>>> the FIRST time I have seen concealed-weapon classes openly
>>> advertised in town. Couple that up with the increasing
>>> paranoia, as a result of the recent instances in Aurora
>>> (Colorado) and Milwaukee (Wisconsin), and I feel I have a right
>>> to be curious.
>>>
>>> BTW, the NFT Academy website has only been in existence since
>>> April 2012 and was not publicly released until June 12, 2012
>>> (TWO MONTHS AGO).
>>>
>>> http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/
>>> I have more info to share, concerning the NFT Academy and its
>>> website, but let's see where this thread leads.
>>>
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
>>> college students are not very active in local elections (thank
>>> goodness!)."
>>>
>>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
>>> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Something legal? The nerve! Next they'll be selling guns!
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>> From: thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:24:56 -0700
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>>>
>>>
>>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>>>
>>>
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