[Vision2020] The 1% in Congress
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 12 11:59:13 PST 2011
Wonderful. I can't wait for your in-depth report on their shoe sizes, then.
Paul
On 11/12/2011 11:44 AM, Ron Force wrote:
> Point? I didn't have a point, other than I thought it was interesting,
> factual information. Seems like it was more of a Rorschach test.
> Ron Force
> Moscow Idaho USA
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> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> *Cc:* Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] The 1% in Congress
>
> Oh. I'm sorry to be so dense. What exactly was Ron's point, then?
>
> Are you making the claim that every one-percenter is trying to "get
> filthier and richer off the backs of middle-income and low-income
> Americans?" What about the two-percenters? Are they greedy bastards,
> or is it just the one-percenters?
>
> Corporations can't be one-percenters, can they? That concept (so I
> thought) relates only to people.
>
> You do understand that if people shifted their targets (of protests)
> to be those known to be involved in unethical business behaviors, I
> (and maybe others like me) would fall in line with you? As it stands,
> I can't get behind a push to ostracize a minority based solely on
> income levels alone.
>
> Paul
>
> On 11/12/2011 09:49 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
>> Paul, Paul, Paul . . .
>>
>> Ron Force lists a bunch of rich congressmen, as conceivable members
>> of the one-percenters, and you're all over it like Sitler on an alter
>> boy.
>>
>> If you take the time to listen and/or read, Paul, you just may attain
>> a fundamental understanding of the 99-percenters' concept. It is my
>> substantiated opinion that the "one-percenters" are (as I explained
>> twice before) the unimaginably, filthy rich corporations seeking to
>> get filthier and richer off the backs of middle-income and low-income
>> Americans.
>>
>> Jeesh!
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "If not us, who?
>> If not now, when?"
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This kind of thing is a good illustration of what concerns me about
>>> this whole 1% / 99% metric. Here is a list of people who are in
>>> Congress who have a lot of money. So what? There is no indication
>>> as to how these people got their money. No condemnation of certain
>>> Congressmen because they passed legislation that directly helped
>>> their bottom line. No effort to separate the wheat from the chaff.
>>> How many of these people came into their wealth and decided they
>>> wanted to do something good with it but also understand the idea
>>> behind the phrase "free milk and a cow"? The only thing we can say
>>> is that they are doing well.
>>>
>>> it looks vaguely like a target list, frankly. What ever happened to
>>> the good old American Dream(tm)?
>>>
>>> What we should be focused on is unmitigated greed. It exists in all
>>> levels of society, not just in the most wealthy. Condemn the laws
>>> that encourage it, such as the ability of shareholders to sue if a
>>> company is making a decision that affects short-term profits in
>>> favor of long-term growth or the various tax dodges written into the
>>> tax code to benefit specific companies over their competition
>>> (making for a non-free trade market). There are plenty other
>>> examples of outright greed that we could be focusing on. Instead,
>>> we are focusing on net wealth as some kind of metric of Good vs.
>>> Evil. Sure, the wealthy could be doing more to help the poor, but
>>> so could each one of us.
>>>
>>> While we're on the subject of the seven deadly sins, why not take a
>>> close look at "envy" while we're at it?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2011 04:34 PM, Ron Force wrote:
>>>> *Table 2: All members of Congress with average net worth above $9
>>>> million, from 2009*
>>>> Name Minimum Wealth Maximum Wealth Average Chamber
>>>> Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) $156,050,022 $451,100,000 $303,575,011
>>>> House
>>>> John Kerry (D-Mass.) $182,755,534 $294,869,059 $238,812,296 Senate
>>>> Mark Warner (D-Va.) $65,692,210 $283,077,995 $174,385,102 Senate
>>>> Jared Polis (D-Colo.) $36,694,140 $285,123,996 $160,909,068 House
>>>> Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) $89,358,027 $231,245,995 $160,302,011 Senate
>>>> Vernon Buchanan (R-Fla.) -$69,434,661 $366,180,982
>>>> $148,373,160 House
>>>> Michael McCaul (R-Texas) $73,685,086 $201,537,000 $137,611,043
>>>> House
>>>> James E. Risch (R-Idaho) $38,936,114 $179,131,990 $109,034,052
>>>> Senate
>>>> Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) $61,446,018 $136,218,002 $98,832,010
>>>> Senate
>>>> Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) $64,210,256 $125,529,976
>>>> $94,870,116 Senate
>>>> Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) $46,055,250 $108,109,018
>>>> $77,082,134 Senate
>>>> Frank R. Lautenberg (D-N.J.) $49,083,204 $104,690,018
>>>> $76,886,611 Senate
>>>> Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) -$7,356,915 $124,229,990 $58,436,537 House
>>>> Gary Miller (R-Calif.) $19,365,053 $84,302,000 $51,833,526 House
>>>> Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) $9,778,047 $91,656,998 $50,717,522 Senate
>>>> Diane Lynn Black (R-Tenn.) $14,673,049 $84,145,990 $49,409,519
>>>> House
>>>> Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) $19,898,179 $67,697,000
>>>> $43,797,589 House
>>>> Rick Berg (R-N.D.) $19,347,579 $58,981,451 $39,164,515 House
>>>> Nita M. Lowey (D-N.Y.) $14,900,036 $63,125,000 $39,012,518 House
>>>> Kenny Marchant (R-Texas) $13,303,385 $63,106,351 $38,204,868 House
>>>> Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) $6,598,014 $56,244,997 $31,421,505 House
>>>> Scott Rigell (R-Va.) $11,618,078 $48,200,000 $29,909,039 House
>>>> Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) $12,556,055 $44,669,000 $28,612,527
>>>> Senate
>>>> James B. Renacci (R-Ohio) $17,571,131 $39,297,044 $28,434,087
>>>> House
>>>> Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) $11,522,909 $44,209,871 $27,866,390
>>>> Senate
>>>> Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) $7,045,017 $41,899,994 $24,472,505
>>>> House
>>>> Tom Petri (R-Wis.) $5,111,026 $43,765,999 $24,438,512 House
>>>> John Campbell (R-Calif.) $9,227,063 $37,282,000 $23,254,531 House
>>>> Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) $8,368,014 $37,945,000 $23,156,507 House
>>>> Richard L Hanna (R-N.Y.) $10,960,117 $33,276,000 $22,118,058 House
>>>> Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) $15,681,206 $27,543,006 $21,612,106
>>>> Senate
>>>> Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) $10,359,086 $31,381,997 $20,870,541
>>>> House
>>>> John Hoeven (R-N.D.) -$12,829,960 $52,851,999 $20,011,019 Senate
>>>> Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) $7,102,036 $32,756,000 $19,929,018 Senate
>>>> Kay R. Hagan (D-N.C.) $3,549,596 $33,149,981 $18,349,788 Senate
>>>> F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) $14,990,621 $20,923,567
>>>> $17,957,094 House
>>>> Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) $1,056,768 $34,566,596 $17,811,682 Senate
>>>> Michael F Bennet (D-Colo.) $6,217,020 $27,780,000 $16,998,510
>>>> Senate
>>>> Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $10,447,125 $23,082,001 $16,764,563 Senate
>>>> Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.) $9,542,219 $23,259,000 $16,400,609 House
>>>> Fred Upton (R-Mich.) $7,010,173 $25,651,000 $16,330,586 House
>>>> Rosa L. DeLauro (D-Conn.) $5,429,018 $26,697,997 $16,063,507 House
>>>> John McCain (R-Ariz.) $9,769,247 $22,072,994 $15,921,120 Senate
>>>> Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) $7,790,095 $20,949,999 $14,370,047 House
>>>> Cynthia Marie Lummis (R-Wyo.) $4,939,028 $23,591,999
>>>> $14,265,513 House
>>>> Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) $6,393,295 $20,874,000 $13,633,647 Senate
>>>> Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) $6,593,088 $20,654,033 $13,623,560 House
>>>> Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) $4,561,077 $20,503,000 $12,532,038 House
>>>> Tom Price (R-Ga.) $7,653,606 $17,121,588 $12,387,597 House
>>>> Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) $8,010,107 $16,623,001 $12,316,554 Senate
>>>> Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) $4,100,005 $20,250,000 $12,175,002 House
>>>> Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) $6,126,070 $18,078,998 $12,102,534
>>>> House
>>>> Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) $6,407,085 $17,427,999 $11,917,542 Senate
>>>> Rob Portman (R-Ohio) $5,544,075 $17,468,999 $11,506,537 Senate
>>>> David Dreier (R-Calif.) $5,264,092 $17,715,000 $11,489,546 House
>>>> David B. McKinley (R-W.Va.) $5,216,060 $14,316,000 $9,766,030
>>>> House
>>>> John A. Yarmuth (D-Ky.) $2,850,009 $16,349,999 $9,600,004 House
>>>> John Fleming (R-La.) $2,153,834 $16,797,770 $9,475,802 House
>>>> Jon Runyan (R-N.J.) $5,000,034 $13,674,999 $9,337,516 House
>>>>
>>>> Source: Center for Responsive Politics
>>>> <http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index.php>
>>>>
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