[Vision2020] The 1% in Congress

Ron Force rforce2003 at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 12 13:23:28 PST 2011


Here's where it came from:http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/some-calif-members-congress-among-richest-1-percent-13526

Referenced by Ezra Klein's Blog, Washington Post.

 
Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA


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From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The 1% in Congress


 
Wonderful.  I can't wait for your in-depth report on their shoe sizes, then.

Paul

On 11/12/2011 11:44 AM, Ron Force wrote: 
Point? I didn't have a point, other than I thought it was interesting, factual information. Seems like it was more of a Rorschach test. 
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>Ron Force
>Moscow Idaho USA
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>From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>Cc: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM
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>Oh.  I'm sorry to be so dense.  What exactly was Ron's point, then?
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>Are you making the claim that every one-percenter is
                trying to "get filthier and richer off the backs of
                middle-income and low-income Americans?"  What about the
                two-percenters?  Are they greedy bastards, or is it just
                the one-percenters?
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>Corporations can't be one-percenters, can they?  That
                concept (so I thought) relates only to people.
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>You do understand that if people shifted their targets
                (of protests) to be those known to be involved in
                unethical business behaviors, I (and maybe others like
                me) would fall in line with you?  As it stands, I can't
                get behind a push to ostracize a minority based solely
                on income levels alone.
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>Paul
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>On 11/12/2011 09:49 AM, Tom Hansen wrote: 
>Paul, Paul, Paul . . .
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>>Ron Force lists a bunch of rich congressmen, as conceivable members of the one-percenters, and you're all over it like Sitler on an alter boy.
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>>If you take the time to listen and/or read, Paul, you just may attain a fundamental understanding of the 99-percenters' concept.  It is my substantiated opinion that the "one-percenters" are (as I explained twice before) the unimaginably, filthy rich corporations seeking to get filthier and richer off the backs of middle-income and low-income Americans.
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>>Jeesh!
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>>Seeya round town, Moscow.
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>>Tom Hansen
>>Moscow, Idaho
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>>"If not us, who?
>>If not now, when?"
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>>- Unknown
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>>On Nov 12, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>This kind of thing is a good illustration of what
                      concerns me about this whole 1% / 99% metric. 
                      Here is a list of people who are in Congress who
                      have a lot of money.  So what?  There is no
                      indication as to how these people got their
                      money.  No condemnation of certain Congressmen
                      because they passed legislation that directly
                      helped their bottom line.  No effort to separate
                      the wheat from the chaff.  How many of these
                      people came into their wealth and decided they
                      wanted to do something good with it but also
                      understand the idea behind the phrase "free milk
                      and a cow"?  The only thing we can say is that
                      they are doing well.
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>>>it looks vaguely like a target list, frankly. 
                      What ever happened to the good old American
                      Dream(tm)?  
>>>
>>>What we should be focused on is unmitigated
                      greed.  It exists in all levels of society, not
                      just in the most wealthy.  Condemn the laws that
                      encourage it, such as the ability of shareholders
                      to sue if a company is making a decision that
                      affects short-term profits in favor of long-term
                      growth or the various tax dodges written into the
                      tax code to benefit specific companies over their
                      competition (making for a non-free trade market). 
                      There are plenty other examples of outright greed
                      that we could be focusing on.  Instead, we are
                      focusing on net wealth as some kind of metric of
                      Good vs. Evil.  Sure, the wealthy could be doing
                      more to help the poor, but so could each one of
                      us.  
>>>
>>>While we're on the subject of the seven deadly
                      sins, why not take a close look at "envy" while
                      we're at it?  
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>On 11/11/2011 04:34 PM, Ron Force wrote: 
>>>Table 2: All members of Congress with average net worth above $9 million, from 2009
>>>>Name
>>>>Minimum Wealth
>>>>Maximum Wealth
>>>>Average
>>>>Chamber
>>>>Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) $156,050,022 $451,100,000 $303,575,011 House 
>>>>John Kerry (D-Mass.) $182,755,534 $294,869,059 $238,812,296 Senate 
>>>>Mark Warner (D-Va.) $65,692,210 $283,077,995 $174,385,102 Senate 
>>>>Jared Polis (D-Colo.) $36,694,140 $285,123,996 $160,909,068 House 
>>>>Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) $89,358,027 $231,245,995 $160,302,011 Senate 
>>>>Vernon Buchanan (R-Fla.) -$69,434,661 $366,180,982 $148,373,160 House 
>>>>Michael McCaul (R-Texas) $73,685,086 $201,537,000 $137,611,043 House 
>>>>James E. Risch (R-Idaho) $38,936,114 $179,131,990 $109,034,052 Senate 
>>>>Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) $61,446,018 $136,218,002 $98,832,010 Senate 
>>>>Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) $64,210,256 $125,529,976 $94,870,116 Senate 
>>>>Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) $46,055,250 $108,109,018 $77,082,134 Senate 
>>>>Frank R. Lautenberg (D-N.J.) $49,083,204 $104,690,018 $76,886,611 Senate 
>>>>Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) -$7,356,915 $124,229,990 $58,436,537 House 
>>>>Gary Miller (R-Calif.) $19,365,053 $84,302,000 $51,833,526 House 
>>>>Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) $9,778,047 $91,656,998 $50,717,522 Senate 
>>>>Diane Lynn Black (R-Tenn.) $14,673,049 $84,145,990 $49,409,519 House 
>>>>Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) $19,898,179 $67,697,000 $43,797,589 House 
>>>>Rick Berg (R-N.D.) $19,347,579 $58,981,451 $39,164,515 House 
>>>>Nita M. Lowey (D-N.Y.) $14,900,036 $63,125,000 $39,012,518 House 
>>>>Kenny Marchant (R-Texas) $13,303,385 $63,106,351 $38,204,868 House 
>>>>Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) $6,598,014 $56,244,997 $31,421,505 House 
>>>>Scott Rigell (R-Va.) $11,618,078 $48,200,000 $29,909,039 House 
>>>>Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) $12,556,055 $44,669,000 $28,612,527 Senate 
>>>>James B. Renacci (R-Ohio) $17,571,131 $39,297,044 $28,434,087 House 
>>>>Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) $11,522,909 $44,209,871 $27,866,390 Senate 
>>>>Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) $7,045,017 $41,899,994 $24,472,505 House 
>>>>Tom Petri (R-Wis.) $5,111,026 $43,765,999 $24,438,512 House 
>>>>John Campbell (R-Calif.) $9,227,063 $37,282,000 $23,254,531 House 
>>>>Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) $8,368,014 $37,945,000 $23,156,507 House 
>>>>Richard L Hanna (R-N.Y.) $10,960,117 $33,276,000 $22,118,058 House 
>>>>Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) $15,681,206 $27,543,006 $21,612,106 Senate 
>>>>Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) $10,359,086 $31,381,997 $20,870,541 House 
>>>>John Hoeven (R-N.D.) -$12,829,960 $52,851,999 $20,011,019 Senate 
>>>>Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) $7,102,036 $32,756,000 $19,929,018 Senate 
>>>>Kay R. Hagan (D-N.C.) $3,549,596 $33,149,981 $18,349,788 Senate 
>>>>F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wis.) $14,990,621 $20,923,567 $17,957,094 House 
>>>>Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) $1,056,768 $34,566,596 $17,811,682 Senate 
>>>>Michael F Bennet (D-Colo.) $6,217,020 $27,780,000 $16,998,510 Senate 
>>>>Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $10,447,125 $23,082,001 $16,764,563 Senate 
>>>>Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.) $9,542,219 $23,259,000 $16,400,609 House 
>>>>Fred Upton (R-Mich.) $7,010,173 $25,651,000 $16,330,586 House 
>>>>Rosa L. DeLauro (D-Conn.) $5,429,018 $26,697,997 $16,063,507 House 
>>>>John McCain (R-Ariz.) $9,769,247 $22,072,994 $15,921,120 Senate 
>>>>Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) $7,790,095 $20,949,999 $14,370,047 House 
>>>>Cynthia Marie Lummis (R-Wyo.) $4,939,028 $23,591,999 $14,265,513 House 
>>>>Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) $6,393,295 $20,874,000 $13,633,647 Senate 
>>>>Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) $6,593,088 $20,654,033 $13,623,560 House 
>>>>Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) $4,561,077 $20,503,000 $12,532,038 House 
>>>>Tom Price (R-Ga.) $7,653,606 $17,121,588 $12,387,597 House 
>>>>Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) $8,010,107 $16,623,001 $12,316,554 Senate 
>>>>Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) $4,100,005 $20,250,000 $12,175,002 House 
>>>>Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) $6,126,070 $18,078,998 $12,102,534 House 
>>>>Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) $6,407,085 $17,427,999 $11,917,542 Senate 
>>>>Rob Portman (R-Ohio) $5,544,075 $17,468,999 $11,506,537 Senate 
>>>>David Dreier (R-Calif.) $5,264,092 $17,715,000 $11,489,546 House 
>>>>David B. McKinley (R-W.Va.) $5,216,060 $14,316,000 $9,766,030 House 
>>>>John A. Yarmuth (D-Ky.) $2,850,009 $16,349,999 $9,600,004 House 
>>>>John Fleming (R-La.) $2,153,834 $16,797,770 $9,475,802 House 
>>>>Jon Runyan (R-N.J.) $5,000,034 $13,674,999 $9,337,516 House 
>>>>Source: Center for Responsive Politics
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