[Vision2020] Sex Offender

Tue Mar 8 15:23:13 PST 2011

Well, at least we can save 20.7%! Joe

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's the breakdown of the Idaho prison population, 6/30/10, 7504
> prisoners:
>
> Murder & manslaughter  5.8%
> Assault                         23.3%
> Property crimes            21.1%
> Sex                              21.4%
> Alcohol                          7.4%
> Drugs                           20.7%
>
> Source: Idaho Department of Corrections, 2010 Annual Report
>
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> *From:* Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu>
> *To:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Tue, March 8, 2011 12:48:13 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender
>
> I'm confused as to why we're focusing solely on sex offenders.  The large
> majority of folks in the prison system are there on drug-related charges.
> Leave the sex offenders in, and early-relase (or reduce sentencing
> guidelines for) the drug-related offenders in order to save money and reduce
> the size of the prison-industrial complex.  Also, do not renew contracts for
> private prison profiteers, that way 35-40% of the state's prison costs won't
> be set in stone.  If we are going to set anything in stone, it should be a
> base level of funding for education (and that base level should be higher
> than the current level of funding).
>
> -Reggie
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This is a tricky issue.
>>
>> On the one hand, I don't have much of a problem telling someone like John
>> Rydberg, who has admitted to more than 90 sex offenses (see link below),
>> that he should remain incarcerated.
>>
>> On the other hand, even if we suppose that there is a 75% recidivism rate
>> for sex offenders, you're still talking about the unjustified punishment of
>> 25% of them if the suggestion IF the suggestion is something like the "civil
>> commitment sex offender treatment program" that Minnesota has.
>>
>> Not that Rose or anyone else is suggesting that. So far the point is that
>> sex offenders should not be allowed early release and that is a no-brainer,
>> as it is with the early release of any violent criminal (unless there are
>> extenuating circumstances).
>>
>> But the overall issue of what to do with sex offenders, how long they
>> deserve punishment, and whether incarceration in the form of treatment after
>> punishment is a viable option is a very difficult issue, though one that
>> needs much attention.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A pertinent story from Here and Now" this morning on NWPR:
>>>
>>> http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender
>>>
>>> Ron Force
>>> Moscow Idaho USA
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* "betsyd at turbonet.com" <betsyd at turbonet.com>
>>> *To:* Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>; vision 2020 <
>>> vision2020 at moscow.com>; Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tue, March 8, 2011 11:37:40 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender
>>>
>>> Couldn't agree with you more!
>>>
>>> Bets
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: "Rosemary Huskey" donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
>>> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:20:41 -0800
>>> To: "'vision 2020'" vision2020 at moscow.com, "'Sunil Ramalingam'"
>>> sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sex Offender
>>>
>>> > A juried review of recidivism, therapeutic modalities, etc. for sex
>>> > offenders: http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html
>>> >
>>> > The type of offense appears to have some impact of the likelihood of
>>> > reoffending, (which is high at any rate amongst non-incest child
>>> molesters).
>>> > There seems to be  disagreement among professionals about what
>>> constitutes a
>>> > re-offense.  For example, does re-offense mean an arrest, a conviction,
>>> or
>>> > probation violation?  And, of course, no one, except the perpetrators
>>> and
>>> > the victims really know what that rate is. What is clear is that it is
>>> > underreported.  Whether the rate (including perpetrators in regular
>>> group
>>> > "therapy" and I also use quotes) is 50% or .5% the possibility that
>>> > convicted child molesters will continue to troll for and abuse children
>>> is
>>> > too high.  As for specifics, Steven Sitler was jailed in Latah County
>>> for
>>> > almost a year and did in fact drive himself (alone), to the
>>> > Lewiston/Clarkston area regularly for "therapy."  And yes, there were
>>> > controls in place in terms of time driving and mileage etc.
>>> nonetheless, it
>>> > was, in my opinion, a risky situation.  I ask you and other 2020
>>> > contributors, as I did the leaders of Christ Church who support him in
>>> his
>>> > upcoming marriage, would you allow Steve Sitler, given his horrendous
>>> > history of child molestation, unlimited, unsupervised access to your
>>> young
>>> > children?  No therapeutic professional would guarantee that Mr. Sitler,
>>> or
>>> > others with similar criminal histories, can be "cured"  consequently no
>>> > thoughtful adult should trust him around any children.  And, yes, I
>>> would
>>> > gladly pay  more in taxes to keep offenders with a history like Mr.
>>> Sitler's
>>> > in jail until he is 80 years old.  His life time probation offers
>>> absolutely
>>> > zero protection to his potential victims.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Rose Huskey
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> ****************************
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>>> * Love! Love! Love! ************
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