[Vision2020] Sex Offender

Ron Force rforce2003 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 8 15:08:56 PST 2011


Here's the breakdown of the Idaho prison population, 6/30/10, 7504 prisoners:

Murder & manslaughter  5.8%
Assault                         23.3%
Property crimes            21.1%
Sex                              21.4%
Alcohol                          7.4%
Drugs                           20.7%

Source: Idaho Department of Corrections, 2010 Annual Report




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From: Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu>
To: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 12:48:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender

I'm confused as to why we're focusing solely on sex offenders.  The large 
majority of folks in the prison system are there on drug-related charges.  Leave 
the sex offenders in, and early-relase (or reduce sentencing guidelines for) the 
drug-related offenders in order to save money and reduce the size of the 
prison-industrial complex.  Also, do not renew contracts for private prison 
profiteers, that way 35-40% of the state's prison costs won't be set in stone.  
If we are going to set anything in stone, it should be a base level of funding 
for education (and that base level should be higher than the current level of 
funding).

-Reggie


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

This is a tricky issue. 
>
>On the one hand, I don't have much of a problem telling someone like John 
>Rydberg, who has admitted to more than 90 sex offenses (see link below), that he 
>should remain incarcerated. 
>
>
>On the other hand, even if we suppose that there is a 75% recidivism rate for 
>sex offenders, you're still talking about the unjustified punishment of 25% of 
>them if the suggestion IF the suggestion is something like the "civil commitment 
>sex offender treatment program" that Minnesota has. 
>
>
>Not that Rose or anyone else is suggesting that. So far the point is that sex 
>offenders should not be allowed early release and that is a no-brainer, as it is 
>with the early release of any violent criminal (unless there are extenuating 
>circumstances). 
>
>
>But the overall issue of what to do with sex offenders, how long they deserve 
>punishment, and whether incarceration in the form of treatment after punishment 
>is a viable option is a very difficult issue, though one that needs much 
>attention.
>
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>A pertinent story from Here and Now" this morning on NWPR:
>>
>>http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender
>>
>>Ron Force
>>Moscow Idaho USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: "betsyd at turbonet.com" <betsyd at turbonet.com>
>>To: Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>; vision 2020  
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>; Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 11:37:40 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender
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>>
>>Couldn't agree with you more!
>>
>>Bets
>>
>>
>>-----Original message-----
>>From: "Rosemary Huskey" donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
>>Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:20:41 -0800
>>To: "'vision 2020'" vision2020 at moscow.com, "'Sunil Ramalingam'" 
>>sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Sex Offender
>>
>>> A juried review of recidivism, therapeutic modalities, etc. for sex
>>> offenders: http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html
>>> 
>>> The type of offense appears to have some impact of the likelihood of
>>> reoffending, (which is high at any rate amongst non-incest child  
molesters).
>>> There seems to be  disagreement among professionals about what constitutes a
>>> re-offense.  For example, does re-offense mean an arrest, a conviction, or
>>> probation violation?  And, of course, no one, except the perpetrators and
>>> the victims really know what that rate is. What is clear is that it is
>>> underreported.  Whether the rate (including perpetrators in regular group
>>> "therapy" and I also use quotes) is 50% or .5% the possibility that
>>> convicted child molesters will continue to troll for and abuse children is
>>> too high.  As for specifics, Steven Sitler was jailed in Latah County for
>>> almost a year and did in fact drive himself (alone), to the
>>> Lewiston/Clarkston area regularly for "therapy."  And yes, there were
>>> controls in place in terms of time driving and mileage etc.  nonetheless, it
>>> was, in my opinion, a risky  situation.  I ask you and other 2020
>>> contributors, as I did the leaders of Christ Church who support him in his
>>> upcoming marriage, would you allow Steve Sitler, given his horrendous
>>> history of child molestation, unlimited, unsupervised access to your young
>>> children?  No therapeutic professional would guarantee that Mr. Sitler, or
>>> others with similar criminal histories, can be "cured"  consequently no
>>> thoughtful adult should trust him around any children.  And, yes, I would
>>> gladly pay  more in taxes to keep offenders with a history like Mr. Sitler's
>>> in jail until he is 80 years old.  His life time probation offers absolutely
>>> zero protection to his potential victims.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rose Huskey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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