[Vision2020] the shooting

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Sat Jan 8 19:50:22 PST 2011


I don't hold conservatives as a group responsible, and when you point out a mass shooting perpetrated by someone who quotes the rabid animal-rights, Earth First!, and Bush lied/people died folks, I'll condemn it and them as well.  Further, Gary, my standard, as you call it, is the same for any minister in Moscow who would say the left-wing equivalent of what Wilson, et al, does.  When you hear or read something by a left-wing Christian minister here that approaches the noxiousness of what I condemn in these two men, I'll be the first to howl, and howl loudly.

Notice, as I'm not sure you have, that I reserve my anger and condemnation for Christians who behave badly.  That's my interest and my calling, if you will, because hatred from the Christian pulpit, left- or right-wing, hurts the Church of the God I serve.  I don't think objecting to that does, but, as always, you're entitled to your opinion.  But don't suggest that I'm anti-conservative.  I'm not, nor do I hold the millions of decent conservatives in this country responsible for things like this.  I do, however, wish they'd join me in confronting and rebuking the horrid excesses of those on their side of the spectrum.  

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com




From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] the shooting
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:43:01 -0800










And the unstable left wing over the 
top rhetoric of rabid animal rights groups, earth firsters, truthers, and the 
endlessly droning Bush lied/people died crowd don't? Lumping Courtney, Wilson, 
the tea party folks, and conservatives in general as a group with even a 
smattering of responsibility for this tragedy is over the top by any standard. 
Even yours.
 
g




From: keely emerinemix 
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:23 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: [Vision2020] the shooting

In the interest of transparency, I want to say that I've heard 
indirectly from Dale Courtney and directly from Douglas Wilson, both of whom, 
not surprisingly, take umbrage at my characterization that people like them bear 
some responsibility for things like the politically motivated shootings in 
Tucson.  You can look on Dale's blog, and I won't post Wilson's emails to 
me without his permission, but when I take my hits for something I've said or 
done in public, I am not afraid to acknowledge those hits in public.  But 
let's be clear.  

I did not say that Douglas Wilson and Dale 
Courtney shot anyone.  

I did not say they are accountable for the 
actions of the man who did.

I did not say they are guilty in the same way 
the shooter is, and I didn't say they specifically, personally encouraged him to 
do it.

What I said was that people who say the kinds of things these two 
prominent local Christians have said, and say them in the ugly and intolerant, 
public way they've said them, are responsible for the climate that helps tip 
unstable, paranoid anti-government types over the edge.  That doesn't seem 
too difficult to comprehend, and certainly wouldn't seem to be too difficult for 
these two men of chest to bear.  Frankly, if Pima County Sheriff Clarence 
Dupnik has concluded that the atmosphere of hatred and abuse swamping the 
country these days has incubated actions like the shootings today, it hardly 
seems odd that those of us who live in a place where our neighbors contribute so 
nakedly to that atmosphere would remark on their culpability for 
it.

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com






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