[Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson

[Gary Crabtree]

James Jae Lee, John Patrick Bedell, and Nidal Hasan leap immediately to 
mind.

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From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM
To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson

> Can shootings like this be found coming from both sides? Give an
> example of a left wing nut who did something similar within the last
> few years? Try to do it quickly.
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Anti-government paranoia can be found on both sides of the spectrum.  If
>> you go to his YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10),
>> you'll see that he's put both Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto
>> under "Books", as well as some others I wouldn't expect Tea Party
>> sympathizers to hold dear such as Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.
>>
>> They'll trot him out before the cameras soon enough, and he can let us
>> all know then.  And if he did do it because she voted for the Health
>> Care bill, then I throw my weight behind you right now in condemning him
>> for that.  I just have a feeling that this one is going to be stranger
>> than it looks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> keely emerinemix wrote:
>>> sorry -- I neglected to mention that the alleged gunman's video on You
>>> Tube echoes the same paranoid, angry, irrational anti-government stuff
>>> that Wilson, Courtney, and all of their ilk are as famous for as they
>>> are for their status as "Christian" ministers.  That got dropped when
>>> I proofread, but while he was clearly a lone wolf, or so it appears,
>>> he was, as Wilson would say, eagerly suckling at the teat of vicious
>>> right-wing extremism of the kind they promote.
>>>
>>> Enough said, but I think it needed to be.
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
>>> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:41:01 -0800
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson
>>>
>>> I've tried a couple of times to send this and it appears to not have
>>> gone through, but I want to answer Paul:
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your reasonable words.  It's better than I've gotten
>>> from Courtney on his Right-Mind.us blog.
>>>
>>> That said, I would remind you that she had been threatened before as a
>>> result of her involvement in the Obama healthcare bill.  She is not a
>>> liberal, but I believe that she is more progressive than her record
>>> shows, primarily because of the extraordinarily conservative district
>>> she represents -- one that's been rife with violent, bigoted rhetoric
>>> from the Right.  I heard a lot about her from  my father, and even two
>>> years ago he was aware that she and Rep. Grijalva (a friend of mine
>>> from way back in the day) were targets of unreasonable and irrational
>>> attacks from the media and from the entrenched Religious Right and
>>> nascent Tea Party folks.  This was political, and even though the
>>> video posted by the gunman says he's not a Christian, the instances of
>>> "Christian" right-wing extremism in this country is alarming, and
>>> increasing.
>>>
>>> I hold Wilson, Courtney, et al, responsible (do I have to say "and not
>>> accountable" again???) because, as ministers of the Gospel -- Courtney
>>> has been an elder in Christ Church and is a visible evangelical
>>> spokesman in Idaho conservative/Libertarian politics -- they have
>>> failed in their mission to preach and model peace, truth, justice, and
>>> basic kindness in their public pronouncements.  Worse, they have
>>> fanned the flames of a tinderbox-volatile sociopolitical,
>>> religiocultural climate, often with astonishing glee and carelessness,
>>> and are committed, judging from their own works, to calling simple
>>> political disagreement "tyranny" that must be resisted by all
>>> Christian  men.
>>>
>>> You're a good man, and if you disagree with me, you're not evil
>>> because of it.  But surely you see that this hasn't happened in a
>>> vacuum, and that a church leader who, like hundreds of them across the
>>> nation, laughs at the idea of Obama's assassination and perverts
>>> Scripture -- the "Obama Psalm" -- in spreading his hatred of the
>>> President is a man who, like his "tyranny" frothing pastor, deserves
>>> my scorn at minimum, and my indictment in all truth.
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>> Keely
>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>>
>>>
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