[Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson

Sat Jan 8 20:17:44 PST 2011

Nidal Hasan was a liberal now?  Wow.  Come on now, Gary.  Check your facts!

-Reggie

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> James Jae Lee, John Patrick Bedell, and Nidal Hasan leap immediately to
> mind.
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> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 3:42 PM
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson
>
> > Can shootings like this be found coming from both sides? Give an
> > example of a left wing nut who did something similar within the last
> > few years? Try to do it quickly.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Anti-government paranoia can be found on both sides of the spectrum.  If
> >> you go to his YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10),
> >> you'll see that he's put both Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto
> >> under "Books", as well as some others I wouldn't expect Tea Party
> >> sympathizers to hold dear such as Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.
> >>
> >> They'll trot him out before the cameras soon enough, and he can let us
> >> all know then.  And if he did do it because she voted for the Health
> >> Care bill, then I throw my weight behind you right now in condemning him
> >> for that.  I just have a feeling that this one is going to be stranger
> >> than it looks.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> keely emerinemix wrote:
> >>> sorry -- I neglected to mention that the alleged gunman's video on You
> >>> Tube echoes the same paranoid, angry, irrational anti-government stuff
> >>> that Wilson, Courtney, and all of their ilk are as famous for as they
> >>> are for their status as "Christian" ministers.  That got dropped when
> >>> I proofread, but while he was clearly a lone wolf, or so it appears,
> >>> he was, as Wilson would say, eagerly suckling at the teat of vicious
> >>> right-wing extremism of the kind they promote.
> >>>
> >>> Enough said, but I think it needed to be.
> >>>
> >>> Keely
> >>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
> >>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
> >>> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:41:01 -0800
> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson
> >>>
> >>> I've tried a couple of times to send this and it appears to not have
> >>> gone through, but I want to answer Paul:
> >>>
> >>> Paul,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your reasonable words.  It's better than I've gotten
> >>> from Courtney on his Right-Mind.us blog.
> >>>
> >>> That said, I would remind you that she had been threatened before as a
> >>> result of her involvement in the Obama healthcare bill.  She is not a
> >>> liberal, but I believe that she is more progressive than her record
> >>> shows, primarily because of the extraordinarily conservative district
> >>> she represents -- one that's been rife with violent, bigoted rhetoric
> >>> from the Right.  I heard a lot about her from  my father, and even two
> >>> years ago he was aware that she and Rep. Grijalva (a friend of mine
> >>> from way back in the day) were targets of unreasonable and irrational
> >>> attacks from the media and from the entrenched Religious Right and
> >>> nascent Tea Party folks.  This was political, and even though the
> >>> video posted by the gunman says he's not a Christian, the instances of
> >>> "Christian" right-wing extremism in this country is alarming, and
> >>> increasing.
> >>>
> >>> I hold Wilson, Courtney, et al, responsible (do I have to say "and not
> >>> accountable" again???) because, as ministers of the Gospel -- Courtney
> >>> has been an elder in Christ Church and is a visible evangelical
> >>> spokesman in Idaho conservative/Libertarian politics -- they have
> >>> failed in their mission to preach and model peace, truth, justice, and
> >>> basic kindness in their public pronouncements.  Worse, they have
> >>> fanned the flames of a tinderbox-volatile sociopolitical,
> >>> religiocultural climate, often with astonishing glee and carelessness,
> >>> and are committed, judging from their own works, to calling simple
> >>> political disagreement "tyranny" that must be resisted by all
> >>> Christian  men.
> >>>
> >>> You're a good man, and if you disagree with me, you're not evil
> >>> because of it.  But surely you see that this hasn't happened in a
> >>> vacuum, and that a church leader who, like hundreds of them across the
> >>> nation, laughs at the idea of Obama's assassination and perverts
> >>> Scripture -- the "Obama Psalm" -- in spreading his hatred of the
> >>> President is a man who, like his "tyranny" frothing pastor, deserves
> >>> my scorn at minimum, and my indictment in all truth.
> >>>
> >>> Keely
> >>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >>>
> >>> Keely
> >>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >>>
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