[Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-paid for by others

[Gary Crabtree]

Private parking lots such as the one outside my shop are built and maintained with private money. (and quite a bit of it) The same goes for ADA compliance and side walk maintenance. Not a nickel of tax money is spent on it. In fact the city will not even pay to comply with its own laws regarding trespass and vehicle abandonment in a private lot. Any and all expenses are paid by the businesses.

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From: Joe Campbell 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:14 PM
To: Bill London 
Cc: Gary Crabtree ; Robert Dickow ; the lockshop ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us ; tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us ; wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us ; sscott at ci.moscow.id.us ; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us ; wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us ; tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-payedforby others


Do businesses have to pay for parking lots or anything associated with their car customers? What about disability access? Is that paid for by the city or the business? Anyone know?


On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:


  G-
  As I understand the ordinance now before the Council, bike racks will be required only on NEW OR EXPANDED apartment buildings or businesses.  In other words, the ordinance would alter the standards Moscow sets for changes to the city and its amenities.
  I doubt that you would like to eliminate all standards, so the question becomes: what standards are appropriate now and what criteria are appropriate now?
  Requiring bike racks encourages bike use, increased bike use is an excellent strategy to meet national (as well as city) goals in traffic control, obesity targets, lessening reliance on foreign oil, etc.  In sum, a more livable town.   That’s a reasonable standard.
  BL

  From: Gary Crabtree 
  Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:14 PM
  To: Robert Dickow ; 'the lockshop' ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Cc: wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us ; tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us ; wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us ; sscott at ci.moscow.id.us ; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us ; dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us ; tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-payedforby others

  That being the case, why not leave it up to the individual business to make the decision
  to woo you and your bulging wallet in by providing hermetically sealed, air conditioned, gem encrusted bike accommodations?

  Should the city, with its unerring eye for economic bounty, decide to dip into its coffers and build a bike rack on every corner of every block taxpayers would howl and rightly so.
  Even though such a scheme would have the ultimate beneficiaries paying at least a portion of the cost and result in a similar number or parking slots, voters would see it for the wasteful boondoggle that it is. Forcing the expense off onto private property owners doesn't make it any better.

  g


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  From: "Robert Dickow" <dickow at uidaho.edu>
  Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 1:05 PM
  To: "'the lockshop'" <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  Cc: <dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us>; <tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us>; <wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us>; <sscott at ci.moscow.id.us>; <nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us>; <wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us>; <tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us>
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-paid for by others

  > Curiously, Instead of 'government intrusion into business' I thought it was
  > quite the opposite. I thought the bike parking issue was for the benefit of
  > the business, not the bikers. Heck, if I knew I could tie my bike up in such
  > a parking facility I would do 100% of my shopping downtown by bike. Usually
  > in the past I would tie my bike to a tree or post, lacking other handy
  > facilities, and discover that my lock chain didn't fit around the tree...
  > blah blah blah, so there was a disincentive. Businesses... think of the
  > growth of business in town!
  > 
  > Bob Dickow, troublemaker
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
  > On Behalf Of the lockshop
  > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:39 AM
  > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  > Cc: wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us; tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us;
  > wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us; sscott at ci.moscow.id.us; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us;
  > dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us; tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us
  > Subject: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-paid for by
  > others
  > 
  > Does anyone other then myself wonder why the city in its infinite wisdom 
  > doesn't spend a little more time worrying about city property and assets and
  > 
  > a little less time trying to dream up ways to inflict itself on private 
  > property owners, developers, and businesses? I'm speaking of course about 
  > the councils latest intrusion into the lives of its business community, the 
  > proposed bike parking ordnance. <snip>...
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