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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Private parking lots such as the one
outside my shop are built and maintained with private money. (and quite a bit of
it) The same goes for ADA compliance and side walk maintenance. Not a nickel of
tax money is spent on it. In fact the city will not even pay to comply with its
own laws regarding trespass and vehicle abandonment in a private lot. Any and
all expenses are paid by the businesses.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:london@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A
title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary Crabtree</A> ; <A
title=dickow@uidaho.edu href="mailto:dickow@uidaho.edu">Robert Dickow</A> ; <A
title=lockshop@pull.twcbc.com href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the
lockshop</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us">dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us">tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us">wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=sscott@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us">sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us">nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us">wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us">tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for
some-payedforby others</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Do businesses have to pay for parking lots or anything associated
with their car customers? What about disability access? Is that paid for by the
city or the business? Anyone know?<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Bill London <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>As I understand the ordinance now before the Council, bike racks will be
required only on NEW OR EXPANDED apartment buildings or businesses. In
other words, the ordinance would alter the standards Moscow sets for changes
to the city and its amenities.</DIV>
<DIV>I doubt that you would like to eliminate all standards, so the question
becomes: what standards are appropriate now and what criteria are appropriate
now?</DIV>
<DIV>Requiring bike racks encourages bike use, increased bike use is an
excellent strategy to meet national (as well as city) goals in traffic
control, obesity targets, lessening reliance on foreign oil, etc. In
sum, a more livable town. That’s a reasonable standard.</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target=_blank>Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dickow@uidaho.edu href="mailto:dickow@uidaho.edu"
target=_blank>Robert Dickow</A> ; <A title=lockshop@pull.twcbc.com
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target=_blank>'the lockshop'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A title=tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us" target=_blank>tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</A>
; <A title=wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A title=sscott@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" target=_blank>sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</A>
; <A title=nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</A> ; <A
title=tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</A> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for
some-payedforby others</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>That being the case, why not leave it up
to the individual business to make the decision<BR>to woo you and your bulging
wallet in by providing hermetically sealed, air conditioned, gem encrusted
bike accommodations?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Should the city, with its unerring eye
for economic bounty, decide to dip into its coffers and build a bike rack on
every corner of every block taxpayers would howl and rightly so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Even though such a scheme would have the
ultimate beneficiaries paying at least a portion of the cost and result in a
similar number or parking slots, voters would see it for the wasteful
boondoggle that it is. Forcing the expense off onto private property owners
doesn't make it any better.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>g<BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------<BR>From:
"Robert Dickow" <<A href="mailto:dickow@uidaho.edu"
target=_blank>dickow@uidaho.edu</A>><BR>Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011
1:05 PM<BR>To: "'the lockshop'" <<A href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"
target=_blank>lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>Cc: <<A
href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
deluxe parking accommodations for some-paid for by others<BR><BR>>
Curiously, Instead of 'government intrusion into business' I thought it
was<BR>> quite the opposite. I thought the bike parking issue was for the
benefit of<BR>> the business, not the bikers. Heck, if I knew I could tie
my bike up in such<BR>> a parking facility I would do 100% of my shopping
downtown by bike. Usually<BR>> in the past I would tie my bike to a tree or
post, lacking other handy<BR>> facilities, and discover that my lock chain
didn't fit around the tree...<BR>> blah blah blah, so there was a
disincentive. Businesses... think of the<BR>> growth of business in
town!<BR>> <BR>> Bob Dickow, troublemaker<BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]<BR>> On Behalf Of the
lockshop<BR>> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:39 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Cc: <A
href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</A>; <A
href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</A>;<BR>> <A
href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</A>; <A
href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" target=_blank>sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</A>;
<A href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</A>;<BR>> <A
href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</A>; <A
href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us"
target=_blank>tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</A><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] deluxe
parking accommodations for some-paid for by<BR>> others<BR>> <BR>>
Does anyone other then myself wonder why the city in its infinite wisdom
<BR>> doesn't spend a little more time worrying about city property and
assets and<BR>> <BR>> a little less time trying to dream up ways to
inflict itself on private <BR>> property owners, developers, and
businesses? I'm speaking of course about <BR>> the councils latest
intrusion into the lives of its business community, the <BR>> proposed bike
parking ordnance. <snip>...<BR>> <BR>>
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