[Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

Fri Apr 22 02:25:10 PDT 2011

Is it time for me to take it off line, Matt?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> What is the "big government" that you're talking about below, Gary? Tell me
> where the waste is and be specific. You can't and won't and that shows where
> the greater myth lies.
>
> For God's sake, we've been waging a war in two now three different
> countries, putting the whole thing on our world "credit card." But you don't
> raise a peep about that. Education, health care, entitlements -- that is
> where the evil lies (according to you)!
>
> This is crap rhetoric and you know it. And the fact that you can't make a
> sensible response to this post, that all you'll do is throw insults and more
> crap rhetoric proves it even more.
>
> And this isn't an insult. It is a CRITICISM. Maybe you are as unable to
> tell the difference as Roger.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>wrote:
>
>>  I feel fine, thank you for your concern. There is no ire to mitigate on
>> my end and no need for rationalization required on yours. Corporations take
>> advantage of tax laws put in place by Republican and Democrat lawmakers to
>> return value to the shareholders as is their primary reason for existance.
>> The fact that you and your family have been able to take advantage of this
>> warms my heart.
>>
>> The notion that corporations large or small should "pay a fair share" is a
>> farce generated by big government (and it's friends and beneficiaries) to
>> extract additional revenue from individuals. The burden falls on
>> shareholders in the form of reduced return on investment and/or on customers
>> in the form of higher price for products. Placing ever-increasing drains on
>> a corporations revenue can only result in disaster. If return to investors
>> is too low or the price of goods is to high the end result is the same. You
>> have killed the goose and the attendant jobs, goods, and services (and yes,
>> tax monies) that it generated.
>>
>>
>> g
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
>> *To:* the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> ; 'Vision 2020'<vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:13 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>>
>>  True,  and we probably won’t be able to do them much longer, so perhaps
>> that will help to mitigate your ire.  A few years ago I was behind one of
>> the efforts to get PERSI to disinvest—a move that went nowhere, fast.  So I
>> continue to take the dirty money and I’m going to be spending it on critical
>> needs for our disabled adult daughter.  Feel better now?
>>
>> Sue  H
>>
>>  *From:* the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
>> *To:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> ; 'Vision 2020'<vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>>
>>  Interestingly enough, Exxon Mobile, Conoco Philips, General Electric and
>> Goldman Sachs are among the ten largest holdings of several of the funds
>> held by PERSI. These "dirty corporate freeloaders" are playing a large part
>> in funding local retiree's trips to Hawaii! This must be brought to a halt
>> immediately.
>>
>> g
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
>> *To:* 'Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:58 PM
>> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>>
>>  Sort of a down and dirty (for sure dirty) list of Corporate
>> Freeloaders.  Thought it might be of interest to some of you.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>>  *From:* William Frye <frye3407 at att.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:48 AM
>> *To:* undisclosed recipients:
>> *Subject:* Fw: This could be big
>>
>>
>>
>>  A few weeks ago, Senator Bernie Sanders released a list of the 10
>> companies worst at paying their fair share in taxes. We liked it, and our
>> designer Gabe quickly put it into chart form and put it up on our website.
>>
>> What happened next was exciting: Tens of thousands of people started
>> sharing the chart on Facebook. Blogs started posting links to it. It began
>> to really blow up—and that gave us an idea: *What if we could get this
>> popular chart in front of millions of people today as they're finishing
>> their taxes?*
>>
>> So here we go: We're going to try to *saturate Facebook with the chart
>> below, so that everyone sees the shameful behavior of these 10 companies.
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>> *
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>> –Peter, Eli, Alicia, Jenine, Gabriel, and the whole MoveOn.org Civic
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