[Vision2020] Fw: This could be big

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri Apr 22 02:23:37 PDT 2011


What is the "big government" that you're talking about below, Gary? Tell me
where the waste is and be specific. You can't and won't and that shows where
the greater myth lies.

For God's sake, we've been waging a war in two now three different
countries, putting the whole thing on our world "credit card." But you don't
raise a peep about that. Education, health care, entitlements -- that is
where the evil lies (according to you)!

This is crap rhetoric and you know it. And the fact that you can't make a
sensible response to this post, that all you'll do is throw insults and more
crap rhetoric proves it even more.

And this isn't an insult. It is a CRITICISM. Maybe you are as unable to tell
the difference as Roger.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>wrote:

>  I feel fine, thank you for your concern. There is no ire to mitigate on
> my end and no need for rationalization required on yours. Corporations take
> advantage of tax laws put in place by Republican and Democrat lawmakers to
> return value to the shareholders as is their primary reason for existance.
> The fact that you and your family have been able to take advantage of this
> warms my heart.
>
> The notion that corporations large or small should "pay a fair share" is a
> farce generated by big government (and it's friends and beneficiaries) to
> extract additional revenue from individuals. The burden falls on
> shareholders in the form of reduced return on investment and/or on customers
> in the form of higher price for products. Placing ever-increasing drains on
> a corporations revenue can only result in disaster. If return to investors
> is too low or the price of goods is to high the end result is the same. You
> have killed the goose and the attendant jobs, goods, and services (and yes,
> tax monies) that it generated.
>
>
> g
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> *To:* the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> ; 'Vision 2020'<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>
>  True,  and we probably won’t be able to do them much longer, so perhaps
> that will help to mitigate your ire.  A few years ago I was behind one of
> the efforts to get PERSI to disinvest—a move that went nowhere, fast.  So I
> continue to take the dirty money and I’m going to be spending it on critical
> needs for our disabled adult daughter.  Feel better now?
>
> Sue  H
>
>  *From:* the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM
> *To:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> ; 'Vision 2020'<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>
>  Interestingly enough, Exxon Mobile, Conoco Philips, General Electric and
> Goldman Sachs are among the ten largest holdings of several of the funds
> held by PERSI. These "dirty corporate freeloaders" are playing a large part
> in funding local retiree's trips to Hawaii! This must be brought to a halt
> immediately.
>
> g
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> *To:* 'Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:58 PM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Fw: This could be big
>
>  Sort of a down and dirty (for sure dirty) list of Corporate Freeloaders.
> Thought it might be of interest to some of you.
>
> Sue
>
>  *From:* William Frye <frye3407 at att.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:48 AM
> *To:* undisclosed recipients:
> *Subject:* Fw: This could be big
>
>
>
>  A few weeks ago, Senator Bernie Sanders released a list of the 10
> companies worst at paying their fair share in taxes. We liked it, and our
> designer Gabe quickly put it into chart form and put it up on our website.
>
> What happened next was exciting: Tens of thousands of people started
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> to really blow up—and that gave us an idea: *What if we could get this
> popular chart in front of millions of people today as they're finishing
> their taxes?*
>
> So here we go: We're going to try to *saturate Facebook with the chart
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