Is it time for me to take it off line, Matt?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Joe Campbell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">What is the "big government" that you're talking about below, Gary? Tell me where the waste is and be specific. You can't and won't and that shows where the greater myth lies.<br>
<br>For God's sake, we've been waging a war in two now three different countries, putting the whole thing on our world "credit card." But you don't raise a peep about that. Education, health care, entitlements -- that is where the evil lies (according to you)! <br>
<br>This is crap rhetoric and you know it. And the fact that you can't make a sensible response to this post, that all you'll do is throw insults and more crap rhetoric proves it even more.<br><br>And this isn't an insult. It is a CRITICISM. Maybe you are as unable to tell the difference as Roger.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:14 PM, the lockshop <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target="_blank">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I feel fine, thank you for your concern. There is
no ire to mitigate on my end and no need for rationalization required on
yours. Corporations take advantage of tax laws put in place by Republican and
Democrat lawmakers to return value to the shareholders as is their primary
reason for existance. The fact that you and your family have been able to
take advantage of this warms my heart. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The notion that corporations large or small should
"pay a fair share" is a farce generated by big government (and it's
friends and beneficiaries) to extract additional revenue from individuals. The
burden falls on shareholders in the form of reduced return on investment and/or
on customers in the form of higher price for products. Placing ever-increasing
drains on a corporations revenue can only result in disaster. If return to
investors is too low or the price of goods is to high the end result is the
same. You have killed the goose and the attendant jobs, goods, and services (and
yes, tax monies) that it generated.</font></div>
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</div><div><div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target="_blank">the lockshop</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">'Vision
2020'</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:13
PM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: This could
be big</div>
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<div>True, and we probably won’t be able to do them much longer, so
perhaps that will help to mitigate your ire. A few years ago I was
behind one of the efforts to get PERSI to disinvest—a move that went nowhere,
fast. So I continue to take the dirty money and I’m going to be spending
it on critical needs for our disabled adult daughter. Feel better
now?</div>
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<div>Sue H </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target="_blank">the lockshop</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:56 AM</div><div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="suehovey@moscow.com" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">Sue Hovey</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">'Vision
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Interestingly enough, Exxon Mobile, Conoco
Philips, General Electric and Goldman Sachs are among the ten largest holdings
of several of the funds held by PERSI. These "dirty corporate freeloaders" are
playing a large part in funding local retiree's trips to Hawaii! This must be
brought to a halt immediately.</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">'Vision 2020'</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:58
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<div>Sort of a down and dirty (for sure dirty) list of Corporate
Freeloaders. Thought it might be of interest to some of you.</div>
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<div>Sue </div>
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