[Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

[Darrell Keim]

Because, Gary, if you were smart you would be a progressive. ;>)

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>wrote:

>  "... louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other
> constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me.  Of course, I’m
> suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda."
>
> Why is it that when it comes to disagreement, the first order of business
> for a progressive is to start off with a variation on the standard insult
> (you're stupid) followed by a charge of insincerity? I would think that
> using a different tactic at least once in a while would be helpful if for no
> other reason that to break up the monotony.
>
> g
>
>  *From:* Rosemary <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:41 AM
> *To:* 'ringoshirl' <ringoshirl at moscow.com> ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
>  Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary’s question.  Many of
> my family members enjoy hunting and own guns.   From my perspective,
> however,  an “F” rating from the NRA is a badge of honor.  Ranting about 2
> nd amendment rights by louts who would be unable to discuss
> (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little
> hollow to me.  Of course, I’m suspicious of any civilian group that wraps
> the flag around their agenda.
>
> Rosemary
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *ringoshirl
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA
>
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> Visionaries:
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> Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low rating
> from the National Rifle Association.  It’s interesting to me that Mr.
> Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time to submit a
> question during the KRFP interview.  I am also uncomfortable with his
> vitriolic comments towards people with whom he disagrees politically.  After
> asking me to respond, he brands my answer “rhetoric” in advance.
>
> However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be curious, so
> I will give a candid response.
>
> I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy their
> publications.  I think the organization provides a service that people
> appreciate.  I also think that, at times, their political action wing has
> been over the top.
>
> This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature.  Many
> legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its powerful
> influence.  During my service in the Legislature, I have not always voted
> according to their wishes.  I have listened to constituents who have
> contacted me.  I have contacted attorneys to determine whether the
> legislation was deemed necessary by them.  After weighing all information, I
> vote according to what seems most responsible, and I never take this
> lightly.
>
> Gun safety is very important to me.  In the most recent session, the
> majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured
> exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations.  I think that
> is dangerous and irresponsible.  Our Attorney General said it was likely
> unconstitutional.  My vote was one of the few against that legislation.
>
> During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced legislation
> that would threaten anybody’s second amendment rights.  I have none
> planned.  Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action group, and we
> should always listen to all sides of an issue before voting.  But our
> legislative decision-making should not be driven by a desire for high
> ratings.
>
> Shirley Ringo
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