[Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

Gary Crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Sun Oct 31 14:06:55 PDT 2010


"... louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me.  Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda."

Why is it that when it comes to disagreement, the first order of business for a progressive is to start off with a variation on the standard insult (you're stupid) followed by a charge of insincerity? I would think that using a different tactic at least once in a while would be helpful if for no other reason that to break up the monotony.

g


From: Rosemary 
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:41 AM
To: 'ringoshirl' ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA


Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary's question.  Many of my family members enjoy hunting and own guns.   From my perspective, however,  an "F" rating from the NRA is a badge of honor.  Ranting about 2nd amendment rights by louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me.  Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.

Rosemary

 

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of ringoshirl
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA

 

Visionaries:

 

Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low rating from the National Rifle Association.  It's interesting to me that Mr. Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time to submit a question during the KRFP interview.  I am also uncomfortable with his vitriolic comments towards people with whom he disagrees politically.  After asking me to respond, he brands my answer "rhetoric" in advance.

However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be curious, so I will give a candid response.  

I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy their publications.  I think the organization provides a service that people appreciate.  I also think that, at times, their political action wing has been over the top.  

This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature.  Many legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its powerful influence.  During my service in the Legislature, I have not always voted according to their wishes.  I have listened to constituents who have contacted me.  I have contacted attorneys to determine whether the legislation was deemed necessary by them.  After weighing all information, I vote according to what seems most responsible, and I never take this lightly.

Gun safety is very important to me.  In the most recent session, the majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations.  I think that is dangerous and irresponsible.  Our Attorney General said it was likely unconstitutional.  My vote was one of the few against that legislation.

During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced legislation that would threaten anybody's second amendment rights.  I have none planned.  Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action group, and we should always listen to all sides of an issue before voting.  But our legislative decision-making should not be driven by a desire for high ratings. 

Shirley Ringo

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