[Vision2020] Curiosity Question

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sun Nov 28 17:27:03 PST 2010


Dude, you do not know me. I think my volunteer work in the community
stacks nicely up against yours, thank you very much. Do a little
research, for Christ's sake. And please don't pass judgments about me
based on the few comments you read about me on the V. Also, you're
reading things into my comments that I didn't say nor did I even
imply.

Long story short: if you'd stop telling me what I can or cannot freely
talk about on the V, I'd be happy to leave you out of it altogether.
On the other hand, if you are going to get in my face, I'm going to
get back in yours. That's just how we roll in Jersey. Sorry you got
the news a bit late!

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm happy for you that the fact that at least two radical rightwing
>> churches, ones who continually disrespect and even threaten people who
>> have alternative world views, exist in Moscow; that one of them ran a
>> candidate for political office, hoping to extend their narrow, bigoted
>> views.
>
> I'm going to assume that the above incomplete sentence was intended to say
> something along the lines that the radical rightwing churches don't bother
> me.  Again, you are reading more into my note than I actually said.  You
> have no idea what I think of them.  All you know is that I didn't think we
> needed to bring Christ Church into Tom's church list question.  That comment
> was followed by Tom himself saying something very similar in a follow-up
> note.  I am perfectly happy that you are interested in these two churches.
>  Just because something is not a topic I pursue vociferously does not mean
> others shouldn't.  Unfortunately, this listserv seems like a one note
> instrument when almost everything is linked to that same topic.
> As to any new remarks made by NSA-how are they breaking news?  Are they
> breaking with previous pronouncements?  You (and others) find their beliefs
> and stances repugnant.  Nothing new there.  If the dog has always smelled,
> why keep talking about it if that is all the action you plan to take?
> I do find it interesting how you feel free to make accusations about me but
> are unwilling/able to back them up when pressed (Too summarize for our
> viewership you have made four unproven/untrue accusations about me:  1.  I
> am unconcerned about these local churches.  2. I have criticized people that
> are.  3.  I am only concerned about threatening remarks made about
> Christians.  4.  I am a Christian-I'll concede this point, I'm a
> Protestant.).  That's a lot of unwarranted assumptions you make about me.
>  We all know what happens when you ass-u-me.  Doesn't lead credence to your
> other discussion points.  I hope for better use of argumentation and logic
> from a philosopher with such an awesome name.
> I've told you how I stand up for what I'm concerned about.  I volunteer
> and/or work for agencies that make a difference.  Do you do anything other
> than write and talk?  Nott meant as a jab.  I really am curious, and suspect
> others on v2020 are too.  I know it means more to me when someone combines
> their talk with action.  As an aside, I am currently reading a bio of Irish
> hunger striker Bobby Sands.  What a guy!  He REALLY walked the talk.



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