[Vision2020] Curiosity Question

Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 28 14:32:45 PST 2010


Joe:

I merely pointed out that this topic has been well discussed on this list.
 In fact, I think most of the key players on this listservs positions are
well known.  There isn't much more to be gained by bringing up the topic
again and having everybody reiterate the same points they've been making for
almost ten years. Surely there are other topics of interest to discuss in
the community.

More below:

On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> More to gain? There was a candidate for state election from one of these
> bigoted churches. The local Republican party seems to think this doesn't
> matter. Why is that not a cause for concern?
>
I was concerned at the time.  But he was soundly defeated.  Our system at
work.  Messy but effective.  The Rep.s' ran someone they thought would win,
and the public let its will be known.  If they think a person with such
views is a good candidate to endorse, that is their right.  It is others
right not to vote for them, and to organize against them. I certainly
exercised my rights in the matter, and encouraged others to do the same.
 I'll note the election is now over.

>
> Do we actually have to elect the bigots to office before we should care?
>
Of course not.  Do we need to endlessly discuss the same issue over and over
again to show we care?


> Or is it just that they don't say things about your religion? As long as
> they berate the Mirmons and the Muslims it is OK?
>
As long as there are different Holy Books, or even different people reading
the same Holy Books there will be people berating others for their beliefs.
 Every church I've seen has followers that berate others beliefs.   But,
most members of different religions choose to follow their beliefs, and let
others follow theirs.  "To each his own," seems to be the general attitude,
and is mine-so long as they don't impede the rights of others in the
practicing of their religion.  Have the local churches impeded anyones
rights?  Or have they simply exercised their own?  Rights are an interesting
thing.  Everyone wants to defend their own.  Yet many get angry when others
choose to exercise theirs.

>
> I can understand why you might not want to speak out.
>
Actually, I am known in my family as the one most likely to speak out.
Locally I I choose to speak out via actions more than words.  I've spoken
out about the economy and local politics via my tenure with the Chamber of
Commerce (paid a high price for that one), against homelessness and hunger
with my work for Sojourners' Alliance, in favor of volunteerism with my
leadership of the defunct Latah Community Volunteer Center, and in favor of
youth via my work with the Boy Scouts and Latah Community Youth Advocacy
Council, and my work against drug and alcohol abuse.  I try to do my share,
thank you.  Please don't doubt my decisions to speak out, simply because
they are in areas where you are not active.


> I just wish you'd refrain from criticizing those who do.
>

Please point out where I said these local churches and the beliefs they
espouse were not a cause for concern, and/or criticized anyone in my initial
message.  Betcha can't.
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