[Vision2020] The 2008 Legislature and SB1427 - When Idaho Gave a Damn

[Andreas Schou]

Your driver's license is not proof of citizenship, nor is your social
security card. Your passport might be.

-- ACS

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
> And the answer to your specific question is YES, I do carry proof of
> my citizenship with me.
>
> Wayne
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 2:06 PM, jpool at moscow.com wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> One of the pertinent parts of my questions is (or at least is
>> implied):
>> "Are you walking around with proof of your citizenship on your
>> person?"
>>
>> If you are stopped on the street RIGHT NOW, do you have proof beyond
>> all
>> reasonable doubt that you are a legal citizen, *on your person?*
>>
>> As to the rest of your rant, how does it bear any reasonable
>> relationship
>> to my post?
>>
>> John
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Not everyone that is in favor of enforcing our federal immigration
>>> laws is a "right-wingnut". Do I think that our current immigration
>>> policy needs improvement, yes I do. I also think that
>>> violations of federal law is not the way for illegal immigrants to
>>> endear themselves to our lawmakers  and citizens when it comes to
>>> those improvements.  None of us gets to pick and choose which
>>> laws we personally feel we should not obey or get prosecuted for. The
>>> laws are there for all of us, to be obeyed or not, and for us to
>>> personally take the consequences for our actions.
>>> And as far as being able to identify yourself as an American citizen,
>>> yes I do have such documentation, so did my parents and my
>>> grandparents.
>>>
>>> Some questions to ponder: Do you think we should have open borders so
>>> anyone can come and go as they please? Do you think that the 12-20
>>> million estimated illegals should be granted a
>>> blanket amnesty, even though they have in fact broken federal
>>> immigration laws?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2010, at 10:51 AM, John Pool wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder how many of us posting to The Viz walk around with papers
>>>> that
>>>> prove that we have a right to be here, and that our parents also
>>>> had/
>>>> have a
>>>> right to be here? Does State Senator Mike Jorgenson? Will these
>>>> right-wingnuts bring about an ever-stronger movement towards a
>>>> national
>>>> identity card? Points to ponder.
>>>>
>>>> John Pool
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>>> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:16 AM
>>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] The 2008 Legislature and SB1427 - When Idaho
>>>> Gave a
>>>> Damn
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Visionaires -
>>>>
>>>> As Idaho State Senator Mike Jorgenson (R-Hayden) vows to introduce
>>>> legislation (if he is elected), identical to Arizona's "papers
>>>> please"
>>>> immigration bill, a major unwelcomed step in returning Idaho to the
>>>> days
>>>> of white sheets and burning crosses . . .
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2dkm8bs
>>>>
>>>> It is comforting to reflect back to the 2008 Idaho legislature and
>>>> Senate
>>>> Bill 1427.
>>>>
>>>> http://legislature.idaho.gov/legislation/2008/S1427.html#billtext
>>>>
>>>> HIGHER EDUCATION - Amends existing law relating to higher
>>>> education to
>>>> revise residency requirements; and to provide for confidentiality of
>>>> student information.
>>>>
>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>> "Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, any student who
>>>> meets all
>>>> of the following requirements shall be exempt from paying the
>>>> nonresident
>>>> portion of total tuition:
>>>>
>>>>   (a)  Graduation from a public or private high  school  in  this
>>>> state
>>>> or attainment of the equivalent of a high school diploma in this
>>>> state;
>>>>
>>>>   (b)  Continuous residence in this state for:
>>>>
>>>>         (i)   The three (3) years preceding the date of graduation
>>>> or
>>>> receipt of the diploma equivalent, as applicable; and
>>>>
>>>>         (ii)  The  year  preceding  the  census  date of the
>>>> academic
>>>> term in which the person is enrolled in an institution of
>>>> higher  education; and
>>>>
>>>>   (c)  Registration  as  an  entering  student,  or current
>>>> enrollment
>>>> at an accredited institution of higher education in Idaho not
>>>> earlier
>>>> than  the fall semester or quarter of the 2008-2009 academic year;
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>   (d)  In the case of a person without lawful immigrant status in
>>>> the
>>>> United States,  the  filing of an affidavit with the institution of
>>>> higher education stating that the student has filed an  application
>>>> to  legalize  the student's  immigration  status, or will file an
>>>> application as soon as the student is eligible to do so."
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Although this bill died in the House . . .
>>>>
>>>> Idaho Senate BIll 1427 of the 2008 Idaho state legislature, back
>>>> when
>>>> Idaho cared, was strongly supported by our own local
>>>> representatives . . .
>>>> Shirley RIngo and Tom Trail.
>>>>
>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>>>> change
>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>>
>>>> - Unknown
>>>>
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